Re: OT: Why do about 4000+ CCIEs of 25,000 CCIE's...

I work with a guy who's number is in the range of 2xxx. This means he took
the lab exam when it used to be the 2day version. There is no doubt he did
he CCIE when it was more work with the absence of a concentrated
material/resources than now, with all the COD and Labs to to mention books.

This guy is 48 now. Hes got 4 kids and is happy with the level of skills he
has to get his day job going.... hes number expired a few years back... I am
not sure recertifying would really buy him much more in the future to be
honest... not more money, not a promotion, etc. Yes, there is bo doubt it
would give him more skills but if he does not use it again in the future,
what good would it be since he would eventually loose it for not using it?

Sadiq

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Mark Matters <markccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Darby,
> What does this mean: "the one who knows its impossible is busy in writing
> pro level certs , the ones who are in middle the paper tigers are after
> ccie"
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Well said Mark.
> >
> > I got this via a chat:
> >
> > "the one who is overly qualified has lost interest in getting certs , the
> > one who knows its impossible is busy in writing pro level certs , the
> ones
> > who are in middle the paper tigers are after ccie"
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Mark Matters <markccie_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Many people do not want to play the games these company's play. The
> certs
> >> have become a money making branch of the company. They are constantly
> >> changing the cert titles and adding a million tests. Cisco is being to
> >> sound like Microsoft. Microsoft certs have lost their respect years ago
> >> and Cisco is heading that way too.
> >> If you know your stuff ... you know your stuff........... with or
> without
> >> a piece of paper. Certs are just a foot in the door.
> >>
> >> My 2cents.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Darby Weaver
> >> Network Engineer
> >>
> >> 407-802-7394
> >> darbyweaver_at_yahoo.com
> >>
> >
>
>
> --
>
>
> -
> "The more I learn the less I know". This is incredibly frustrating to me.
>
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