Re: R&S 4.0 blueprint

Joe,

Some people spend the entire 30 minutes on OEQs and some spend 10 minutes,
so if you add you will get to 7 - 7.5 hours.

But as far as 10 - 15 questions with a difference of 50%, well i guess the
intensity of the question should also be considered.
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> Gorito is expected to speak soon to the matter again with NLI/360.
>
> In the meantime, I expect that a lot of issues will almost have to be
> common to the Tech Notes and common well-known issues and perhaps the more
> common problems associated with VRFs and maybe MPLS VPNs (RD/RT).
>
> Those might be easy to those well versed but might ruin someone's lunch if
> they come to the party less that "well-prepared".
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Joe Astorino <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>wrote:
>
>> Remember, we have been told it is "10 to 15 tickets" which to me is quite
>> a gap -- I mean ... thats like what 50% more? An extra 3 or 5 problems
>> could definitely be an issue. Hopefully, this will be clarified.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Now the next question is what kinds of issues can be divided into 10
>>> tickets in about 2 horus?
>>>
>>> Maybe that's where the MPLS will reside?
>>>
>>> I'd actually consider this most likely for the MPLS addition. It would
>>> give candidates a chance to think abotu MPLS, they'd have to understand the
>>> technology to repair/fix it and of course troubleshoot in the first place.
>>>
>>> In any event I'd expect MPLS to be light at least initially.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Narbik is counting:
>>>>
>>>> 1. 2 Hours Troublshooting
>>>> 2. 5.5 Hours Configuration of the New Lab
>>>>
>>>> 7.5 Hours Total. +/- 30 Minutes for OEQ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Joe Astorino <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Narbik,
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you expand on that idea? I thought with v4.0 we were going to see:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) 30 minutes OEQ
>>>>> 2) 2 hours troubleshooting
>>>>> 3) 5.5 hours configuration
>>>>>
>>>>> At least that is what I got from the Ask The Expert:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://forum.cisco.com/eforum/servlet/NetProf?page=netprof&forum=Expert%20Archive&topic=Career%20Certifications&topicID=.ee7f99b&fromOutline=&CommCmd=MB%3Fcmd%3Ddisplay_location%26location%3D.2cd32078/30
>>>>>
>>>>> So what do you mean, 7 hours?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Darby,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think once you count the troubleshooting section and the
>>>>>> configuration section you end up with 7 hours, i think and i hope that Cisco
>>>>>> makes it challenging enough so the newly minted CCIEs will be knowledgeable
>>>>>> and what you would expect from a CCIE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Darby Weaver <
>>>>>> darby.weaver_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I only counted 5.5 hours of configuration and testing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This amounts to a little more than a CCIE Accessor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, I'm sure it will be the more difficult parts of any recent
>>>>>>> 3-5 years lab worth off complexity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd expect the easier and more routine topics will be
>>>>>>> pre-coninfigured. Leaving the candidate to sort out the more difficult or
>>>>>>> time consuming topics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is, the lower order topics may be considered mastery by virtue
>>>>>>> of completing the troubleshooting section and whatever is left of the OEQ.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Marko Milivojevic <
>>>>>>> markom_at_markom.info> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 22:52, Narbik Kocharians <
>>>>>>>> narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > I agree with Iwan, you should know:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > - LDP
>>>>>>>> > - Basic MPLS
>>>>>>>> > - RSVP - (I kinda find it hard to believe that this would be in
>>>>>>>> the exam,
>>>>>>>> > like Scott mentioned, TE is NOT part of this exam,
>>>>>>>> > B B B B B B B they don't even hit it hard in the SP track).
>>>>>>>> > - L3 VPN's - Static routes, RIPv2, Eigrp, OSPF, BGP
>>>>>>>> > - VRF & VRF Lite
>>>>>>>> > - Complex VPNs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would actually be surprised to see any complex VPN's to begin
>>>>>>>> with.
>>>>>>>> With 6 hours and all the other fun stuff there, this *could* be just
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> little bit too much. However, we shouldn't forget the
>>>>>>>> troubleshooting
>>>>>>>> section. That opens many new possibilities for introducing different
>>>>>>>> stuff to troubleshoot. For example, we may not have a complex
>>>>>>>> redistribution scenario to configure, but we may have a monster to
>>>>>>>> troubleshoot...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just thinking out loud here.
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> CCIE #18427 (SP)
>>>>>>>> My network blog: http://cisco.markom.info/
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347 R&S
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>>
>> Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347 R&S
>> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
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