Re: OT- Reaching 40, choosing path

And Blueprint changes !!! :P

Scott Morris wrote:
> Except for taxes and death. ;)
>
> Narbik Kocharians wrote:
>
>> Well said Darby, Listen mate this is life, welcome .....
>>
>> Having CCIE makes you *MORE* marketable and very seldom you find them out of
>> job.......but nothing in this life is guaranteed.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Salah,
>>>
>>> Don't feel bad my friend. Many who are older and even have some years
>>> experience in some parts of the world report no jobs either for a CCIE.
>>>
>>> Now I'm going to assume that means no jobs that pay what these guys expect
>>> to be earning, however some have been on the bench for a while. So it is
>>> hard to say.
>>>
>>> If you join linkedin and know how to network, there are lots of job
>>> listed. I checked today for Cisco for example and there were over 9 pages
>>> of job 10-12 a page all over the world offered by third parties, but only a
>>> couple for CCIEs.
>>>
>>> Other recruiters are dying to meet CCIE's .
>>>
>>> Then you have various job boards.
>>>
>>> I guess it depends on the country too. That's important.
>>>
>>> I knew lots of companies in my career who have no idea what a CCIE is
>>> anyway. And if they did they did not feel the need to have one on staff.
>>>
>>> Look at the bright side there is always consulting.
>>>
>>> We have list members that do quite well or even twice to thrice as well as
>>> most CCIE's in the corp space.
>>>
>>> It really depends.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Salah ElShekeil <
>>> salah.elshekeil_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Guys I'm barely 23 and I got my number 4 months back, CCIE is not mean
>>>> that
>>>> u will be happy,
>>>>
>>>> you can be without this cert and u have a neat job :), I'm a CCIE without
>>>> a
>>>> job and I spent around one year full time studying like the hell and now
>>>> I'm
>>>> not getting any job :( so don't think that CCIE is the end of this world
>>>> :D
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just my 2 cents :D
>>>>
>>>> SE
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Mohamed El Henawy <m.henawy_at_link.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> the only thing that will happen in 2012 is that Cisco is going to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> announce
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> another blueprint and open ended going to be 2 questions only... lol
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexei Monastyrnyi" <
>>>>> alexeim73_at_gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "Narbik Kocharians" <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>>>>> Cc: "kalpesh acharya" <angel.cash_at_gmail.com>; "ospfv2" <
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> ospfv2_at_gmail.com>;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> "Cisco certification" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 10:12 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: OT- Reaching 40, choosing path
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> how about 2012 prophecy? :-) I know I should not have touched that can
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> of worms. :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Narbik Kocharians wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey i am 50 and i may even go for the forth one. If someone told me
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> that
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>> was to die in 6 months or two years, yes.... i would not care about
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> CCIE,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> but since we don't know that, we should never let age stop us.
>>>>>>> A year or so from now, you will be saying to yourself....hey ....had i
>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>> it....i would have been finished.
>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 2:33 AM, kalpesh acharya <angel.cash_at_gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hey GS,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> this is one of the best Non-technical group discussion. i am not in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> my
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> 40s,
>>>>>>>> but yeah, i agree that Age should not be the factor, i am 29, and i m
>>>>>>>> quite
>>>>>>>> a late in my career, i failed often in my academics, but never quit,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> i
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> finally nailed it, i m givin my frist attempt on 10th, i dont have a
>>>>>>>> group
>>>>>>>> to study along wid me, im preparin solo, so sometimes i get tired n
>>>>>>>> bored
>>>>>>>> n
>>>>>>>> scared, but as said U R NOT BRAVE IF UR NOT SCARED, so here i am,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> goin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> finish my journey n hit the spot on 10th, im not worried abt the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> result
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> my performance on the lab day, n ya, i always prefer to be a hardcore
>>>>>>>> CCIE
>>>>>>>> rather being just a certified one, as Scott says, STUDY HARD N BE
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> EVIL,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> ur
>>>>>>>> skills n experience is the most important, Certification is just a
>>>>>>>> paper,
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>> u fail first time doesnt prove that ur not good at it, anyways, keep
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> it
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>> all of u guys, n its not about how u look but how u feel inside...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kalpesh
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 1:11 AM, ospfv2 <ospfv2_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you so much gentlemen for your feedback
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i think i will give it twice, pass or not , i have decide to quit my
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> IT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> job.
>>>>>>>>> and put my energy on other field.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wish You All The Best
>>>>>>>>>
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