Re: Cisco Safe Lab

Cisco Truck...

On 10/28/09, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Ken,
>
> What kind of car do you drive?
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 4:59 PM, mark jackson
> <markcciejackson_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> ...and zero calories!
>>
>> Mark Jackson, CCIE#4736
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Please excuse spelling errors
>>
>> On Oct 28, 2009, at 4:58 PM, armylegionmedic_at_aol.com wrote:
>>
>> > This is better than anything Netflix has to offer.
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jose manzano <josermanzano_at_gmail.com>
>> > To: Cisco certification <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> > Sent: Wed, Oct 28, 2009 4:53 pm
>> > Subject: Re: Cisco Safe Lab
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > LOL , what has Group Study become .....
>> >
>> > Rule # 1 = What happens in Group Study , Stays in Group Study
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Ken Denube <kd5262_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Dawn is very helpful. She has worked with me a lot. I do not like
>> >> to see
>> >> these types of comments about her. If anyone wants to mess with
>> >> her, I will
>> >> run them over with my car.
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On
>> >> Behalf Of
>> >> mark
>> >> jackson
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 4:35 PM
>> >> To: Brad Ellis
>> >> Cc: Dawn Tesar; Narbik Kocharians; <smorris_at_ine.com>; JR Garcia;
>> >> Cisco
>> >> certification
>> >> Subject: Re: Cisco Safe Lab
>> >>
>> >> Excellent,
>> >> Thank you kindly Brad :-)
>> >>
>> >> Mark Jackson, CCIE#4736
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> Please excuse spelling errors
>> >>
>> >> On Oct 28, 2009, at 4:33 PM, "Brad Ellis" <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Mark,
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> She just gets a little excited, that's all. She has the best of
>> >>> intentions - she's just trying to set things straight with the
>> >>> details
>> >>> in regards to the lab safe program.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm going to try, and hopefully, end this thread and suggest if you
>> >>> have
>> >>> any questions about the program to contact me offlist or, if you
>> >>> like,
>> >>> you can contact Rick Smith at cisco (smithr_at_cisco.com) We've asked
>> >>> Rick
>> >>> to work with CLN to clear up the confusion.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> thanks,
>> >>>
>> >>> Brad Ellis
>> >>>
>> >>> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
>> >>>
>> >>> CCSI# 30482
>> >>>
>> >>> CEO / President
>> >>>
>> >>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
>> >>>
>> >>> Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
>> >>>
>> >>> Toll Free: 877-654-2243
>> >>>
>> >>> International: +1-702-968-5100
>> >>>
>> >>> Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call
>> >>>
>> >>> FAX: +1-702-446-8012
>> >>>
>> >>> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
>> >>>
>> >>> Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
>> >>> <http://www.ccbootcamp.com/>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> From: mark jackson [mailto:markcciejackson_at_gmail.com]
>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 4:28 PM
>> >>> To: Dawn Tesar
>> >>> Cc: Narbik Kocharians; <smorris_at_ine.com>; Brad Ellis; JR Garcia;
>> >>> Cisco
>> >>> certification
>> >>> Subject: Re: Cisco Safe Lab
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Or joining an outfit where the Sales and Marketing Director act like
>> >>> that = Terrible
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Hope your better with cisco gear then sales and marketing, might
>> >>> need
>> >>> those digits after all...
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Sorry Brad, I respect you highly but you have a loose cannon on your
>> >>> squad and that isn't good for business.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Mark Jackson, CCIE#4736
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>
>> >>> Please excuse spelling errors
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Oct 28, 2009, at 4:23 PM, "Dawn Tesar" <dawn_at_ccbootcamp.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Pricing as follows:
>> >>>
>> >>> CIERS1 (5 day ILT Boot Camp)
>> >>>
>> >>> 1 Assessment Lab
>> >>>
>> >>> CCIE RS Advanced Lab Workbook
>> >>>
>> >>> CCIE RS Technology Lab Workbook
>> >>>
>> >>> 30 - eight hour sessions of rack time
>> >>>
>> >>> 1 hour mentoring session with CCIE RS Instructor
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> PRICELESS, no really Total: $3144.00
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Just for putting up with all the bantering J
>> >>>
>> >>> I think this is justification for the Cisco Lab Safe Promotion.
>> >>> Yes?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>>
>> >>> Dawn Tesar | Director, Sales and Marketing | CCBOOTCAMP
>> >>>
>> >>> 375 N. Stephanie Street Bldg. 21 Suite 2111, Henderson, Nevada
>> >>> 89014
>> >>>
>> >>> Toll Free 1.877.654.2243 Intl +1.702.968.5100 Fax
>> >>> 702.446.0357 Skype skype:ccbootcamp?call
>> >>>
>> >>> Email dawn_at_ccbootcamp.com
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP) , Cisco
>> >>> Premier Channel Partner
>> >>> Yes! We take Cisco Learning Credits
>> >>> CompTIA Learning Alliance Partner
>> >>>
>> >>> GSA Schedule 70 Contractor #GS-35F-0044V
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> From: Mark Jackson [mailto:markcciejackson_at_gmail.com]
>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 4:12 PM
>> >>> To: Dawn Tesar
>> >>> Cc: Narbik Kocharians; smorris_at_ine.com; Brad Ellis; JR Garcia;
>> >>> Cisco certification
>> >>> Subject: Re: Cisco Safe Lab
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> wow, who hurt the little 'dawn' inside you...oh, your welcome
>> >>> and I guess your done.
>> >>>
>> >>> ...note to self on what vendor not to recommend or take.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Dawn Tesar
>> >>> <dawn_at_ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> And here is my document - read to the end please (pg 2, bulleted
>> >>> points to be exact) -
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.ccbootcamp.com/collateral/360/cisco-lab-safe-
>> >>> promotion.pdf
>> >>>
>> >>> Some of us have more information than others and that is why I
>> >>> am sharing this with you.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Obtain their instructor's recommendation
>> >>>
>> >>> Complete the Cisco 360 Learning Program for CCIE R&S Essentials
>> >>> Package
>> >>>
>> >>> or a CIERS instructor-led workshop
>> >>>
>> >>> Score 80% or better on at least one performance assessment
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> You are welcome J Are we done now?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>>
>> >>> Dawn Tesar | Director, Sales and Marketing | CCBOOTCAMP
>> >>>
>> >>> 375 N. Stephanie Street Bldg. 21 Suite 2111, Henderson, Nevada
>> >>> 89014
>> >>>
>> >>> Toll Free 1.877.654.2243 Intl +1.702.968.5100 Fax
>> >>> 702.446.0357 Skype skype:ccbootcamp?call
>> >>>
>> >>> Email dawn_at_ccbootcamp.com
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP) , Cisco
>> >>> Premier Channel Partner
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Yes! We take Cisco Learning Credits
>> >>> CompTIA Learning Alliance Partner
>> >>>
>> >>> GSA Schedule 70 Contractor #GS-35F-0044V
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> From: Mark Jackson [mailto:markcciejackson_at_gmail.com]
>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 3:52 PM
>> >>> To: Narbik Kocharians
>> >>> Cc: Dawn Tesar; smorris_at_ine.com; Brad Ellis; JR Garcia; Cisco
>> >>> certification
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Subject: Re: Cisco Safe Lab
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> All the bickering and barking. All the opinions and harsh tones.
>> >>> All this for what? To get customers? Prove a point? You all (no
>> >>> names
>> >>> provided as I already said what I felt) are providing absolutely
>> >>> EPIC
>> >>> FAILURE... Now won't you all take a deep breath...
>> >>>
>> >>> For anyone reading this who thinks this is all this list is
>> >>> about. Kindly forgive the BS. The kids arguing just can't provide a
>> >>> document and just move on. Instead, they trump their business...not
>> >>> really thinking that by all the talking their doing they are in fact
>> >>> making their business look STOOPID!!!
>> >>>
>> >>> Here is the document
>> >>> https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-5913
>> >>>
>> >>> Hopefully this will put an end to this, so we can all help,
>> >>> learn or whatever. I'm just tired of having to hit delete every 5
>> >>> seconds with no real traction.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks kindly.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Narbik Kocharians
>> >>> <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> NOW....Was that different to what i mentioned?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I am in this program and i do talk to RICK Smith, and sometimes
>> >>> on weekly basis. I have included my 2.0 boot camp in this program
>> >>> and
>> >>> together the students have a better passing rate. May be the BEST
>> >>> passing chance. But hey.....if a student does NOT score 80 percent
>> >>> on
>> >>> ONE of the labs, then, i guess i will not be recommending him/her
>> >>> for a
>> >>> FREE voucher, i guess after all the labs and lectures in my boot
>> >>> camp if
>> >>> you still score below 80 percent on all the labs, i guess you are
>> >>> NOT
>> >>> ready therefore, you don't qualify.
>> >>>
>> >>> Now once again:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 1 Attend CIERS1 or CIERS2
>> >>> 2 Complete 1 Assessment Lab and score 80% or higher
>> >>> 3 Instructor Recommendation
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Dawn Tesar
>> >>> <dawn_at_ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Stop reading and start understanding -
>> >>>
>> >>> Let's be really clear and end this discussion, I am part of this
>> >>> promotion:
>> >>> If you would like to be a part of the Cisco Lab Safe Promotion -
>> >>> call me, here is what you HAVE TO do:
>> >>> 1 Attend CIERS1 or CIERS2
>> >>> 2 Complete 1 Assessment Lab and score 80% or higher
>> >>> 3 Instructor Recommendation
>> >>>
>> >>> Period the end. I guaranteed this to be accurate.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Dawn Tesar
>> >>> CCBOOTCAMP
>> >>> 1.877.654.2243
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: Scott Morris [mailto:smorris_at_ine.com]
>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 2:29 PM
>> >>> To: Narbik Kocharians
>> >>> Cc: smorris_at_ine.com; Dawn Tesar; mark jackson; Brad Ellis; JR
>> >>> Garcia; Cisco certification
>> >>> Subject: Re: Cisco Safe Lab
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm not doing anything but reading. Why is that so hard for
>> >>> some people
>> >>> to do???
>> >>>
>> >>> For the assessment labs, it very clearly states "Complete all
>> >>> and score
>> >>> 80% or higher on at least one exam"
>> >>>
>> >>> AND = both. Purchase FOUR assessment labs. Score above 80% on
>> >>> at least
>> >>> one.
>> >>>
>> >>> Attend the course as you stated
>> >>>
>> >>> AND obtain the instructor's recommendation. While we may like
>> >>> to assume
>> >>> that's an automatic thing, clearly it is not otherwise they
>> >>> wouldn't
>> >>> bother putting that in there.
>> >>>
>> >>> Beyond that, I'm not making anything up, but it would be very
>> >>> nice to
>> >>> have people read their own marketing stuff. And it says that
>> >>> "All
>> >>> components must be marked complete" blah, blah, blah.
>> >>>
>> >>> I repeat, I don't have anything against the program or the Safe
>> >>> Lab...
>> >>> Just against sales folks not knowing their own rules and trying
>> >>> to sell
>> >>> something without full disclosure. And yes, I hold the same
>> >>> principles
>> >>> towards anyone selling anything in life, so it's nothing new.
>> >>>
>> >>> If that's unbelievable for you, I'm sorry about that. Notice
>> >>> that in
>> >>> NONE of the posts did I say "gee, go someplace else instead" or
>> >>> name
>> >>> anything else. So how about you figure out what the program is
>> >>> that
>> >>> you are involved in and between yourselves quit making shit up?
>> >>> THAT is
>> >>> the point.
>> >>>
>> >>> Principles. New concept. Nothing more needs to be said about
>> >>> it, so
>> >>> feel free to come out with another "unbelievable" commentary.
>> >>> I'm done
>> >>> with it.
>> >>>
>> >>> Scott
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Narbik Kocharians wrote:
>> >>>> Scott,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Why do you like to confuse everyone? I read the rules and
>> >>> spoke to Netmaster
>> >>>> and some people in Cisco, its amazing how you have the ability
>> >>> to twist the
>> >>>> words around. Mate the rule is very SIMPLE, if you attend
>> >>> CIERS-1 and score
>> >>>> 80 or better and god forbid you fail the lab, upon instructors
>> >>>> recommendation Cisco will give that student a FREE voucher.
>> >>> NOW...Which part
>> >>>> is NOT clear? If you like i can get Netmaster people to second
>> >>> what i am
>> >>>> saying here.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> This is unbelievable what some will do these days............
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:09 AM, Scott Morris
>> >>> <smorris_at_ine.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Well said... But you may consider telling the Cisco
>> >>> Marketing people
>> >>>>> about their own program since clearly you know it better than
>> >>> they do! ;)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> The publicly facing document has pretty clear guidelines for
>> >>> all the
>> >>>>> stuff you have to purchase and accomplish in order to "fit
>> >>> the criteria"
>> >>>>> for the free lab resit. I believe a GS Archive search will
>> >>> see that
>> >>>>> too, but it's ok.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-5857
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I'm not sure why I need to know more about your programs than
>> >>> you do,
>> >>>>> but it's ok. Just like used cars... Taxes, fees, licenses,
>> >>> delivery
>> >>>>> to destination, titling all separate (but required).
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service
>> >>> Provider) #4713,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> evil_at_ine.com
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com<http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
>> >>> <http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Toll Free: 877-224-8987
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Outside US: 775-826-4344
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Knowledge is power.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Power corrupts.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Narbik Kocharians wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Well said. How could one even think about grey market?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Dawn Tesar
>> >>> <dawn_at_ccbootcamp.com
>> >>>>>> <mailto:dawn_at_ccbootcamp.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Actually... take it from someone who knows the Cisco 360
>> >>> Program -
>> >>>>>> you only have to buy a single class and a graded
>> >>> assessment to be
>> >>>>>> a part of the Cisco Lab Safe. :)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Well worth the protection. And it doesn't cost a cent
>> >>> more than
>> >>>>>> grey market. HMMMM... what would I choose?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>> Dawn Tesar | Director, Sales and Marketing | CCBOOTCAMP
>> >>>>>> 375 N. Stephanie Street Bldg. 21 Suite 2111, Henderson,
>> >>> Nevada 89014
>> >>>>>> Toll Free 1.877.654.2243 Intl +1.702.968.5100 Fax
>> >>> 702.446.0357
>> >>>>>> Skype skype:ccbootcamp?call
>> >>>>>> Email dawn_at_ccbootcamp.com <mailto:dawn_at_ccbootcamp.com>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP) ,
>> >>> Cisco
>> >>>>>> Premier Channel Partner
>> >>>>>> Yes! We take Cisco Learning Credits
>> >>>>>> CompTIA Learning Alliance Partner
>> >>>>>> GSA Schedule 70 Contractor #GS-35F-0044V
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>>> From: mark jackson [mailto:markcciejackson_at_gmail.com
>> >>>>>> <mailto:markcciejackson_at_gmail.com>]
>> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:25 PM
>> >>>>>> To: smorris_at_ine.com <mailto:smorris_at_ine.com>
>> >>>>>> Cc: Brad Ellis; JR Garcia; Cisco certification; Dawn
>> >>> Tesar
>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: Anyone ever take a Hienz Ulm class?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> ...mental note made ;-)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Mark Jackson, CCIE#4736
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>>>> Please excuse spelling errors
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Oct 27, 2009, at 3:21 PM, Scott Morris
>> >>> <smorris_at_ine.com
>> >>>>>> <mailto:smorris_at_ine.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> hehehehe... While that made me laugh out loud, I'd
>> >>> still at least
>> >>>>>>> caution that it's not the WHOLE story.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> You have to purchase several other things to be part
>> >>> of the
>> >>>>>> Cisco Safe
>> >>>>>>> Lab program.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> So I think you have to BUY the screwdriver set in
>> >>> order to get the
>> >>>>>>> special case.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Scott
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> mark jackson wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> ...but wait there's more! Act now and receive
>> >>> absolutely free,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> this
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> free screwdriver set.
>> >>>>>>>> Sorry, could resist (hehe)
>> >>>>>>>> All great people JR and well worth looking at ;-)
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Mark Jackson, CCIE#4736
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>>>>>> Please excuse spelling errors
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Oct 27, 2009, at 2:42 PM, "Brad Ellis"
>> >>> <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
>> >>>>>> <mailto:brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>>
>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> JR,
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> If you book your class with CCBOOTCAMP (my company),
>> >>> you will
>> >>>>>> get a
>> >>>>>>>>> free
>> >>>>>>>>> retake of not only our class, but if you fail your
>> >>> lab exam, with
>> >>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>> Cisco 360 lab safe program, you will also get a free
>> >>> retake of
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> lab
>> >>>>>>>>> exam as well.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> thanks,
>> >>>>>>>>> Brad Ellis
>> >>>>>>>>> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
>> >>>>>>>>> CCSI# 30482
>> >>>>>>>>> CEO / President
>> >>>>>>>>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
>> >>>>>>>>> Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
>> >>> <mailto:brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>
>> >>>>>>>>> Toll Free: 877-654-2243
>> >>>>>>>>> International: +1-702-968-5100
>> >>>>>>>>> Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call
>> >>>>>>>>> FAX: +1-702-446-8012
>> >>>>>>>>> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
>> >>>>>>>>> Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
>> >>>>>> <http://www.ccbootcamp.com/>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>>>>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com
>> >>> <mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com>
>> >>>>>> [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com
>> >>> <mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com>] On
>> >>>>>> Behalf
>> >>>>>>>>> Of
>> >>>>>>>>> JR Garcia
>> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:40 AM
>> >>>>>>>>> To: Cisco certification
>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Anyone ever take a Hienz Ulm class?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> was looking at taking a class spring 2010 before
>> >>> making an
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> attempt
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> at
>> >>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>> lab.
>> >>>>>>>>> has any one ever attended one of his classes? the
>> >>> other vendors
>> >>>>>>>>> offer a
>> >>>>>>>>> lab/lecture type class, but i really don't want any
>> >>> lecture. i
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> can
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> read
>> >>>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>>> watch videos on my own time to learn the
>> >>> technologies.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> leaving home for 3 weeks with no distractions and
>> >>> just
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> configuring
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> everyday
>> >>>>>>>>> with someone there to give guidance is really
>> >>> appealing to me.
>> >>>>>> seems
>> >>>>>>>>> like a
>> >>>>>>>>> good way to finish up studying before an attempt. i
>> >>> haven't been
>> >>>>>>>>> able
>> >>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>> find any reviews out there so i figured id try here.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> thanks
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
>> >>>>>> <http://www.ccie.net/>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
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>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> Narbik Kocharians
>> >>>>>> CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
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>> >>> --
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>> >>> Narbik Kocharians
>> >>> CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
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>> >>>
>> >>> Sr. Technical Instructor
>> >>> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
>> >>> Training And Remote Racks available
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>> >>>
>> >>>
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>> >>> --
>> >>> Mark Jackson, CCIE #4736
>> >>> Senior Network, Security and Voice Architect
>> >>>
>> >>> 858.705.1861
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Mark Jackson, CCIE #4736
>> >>> Senior Network, Security and Voice Architect
>> >>>
>> >>> 858.705.1861
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