RE: OT - V4, week 1, no new CCIEs?

Actually as I sat for the lab this past Monday, I found myself getting frustrated at times with the way information was being presented and then I realized that I had been in this situation many, many times before.

Undoubtedly it does replicate walking into a client that you are completely unfamiliar with and the CEO & CIO & everybody else is breathing down your neck while you try to figure everything out and resolve the issue!

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From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Justin Mitchell
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:03 AM
To: Marko Milivojevic
Cc: Atlanta CCIE; Charles.Henson_at_regions.com; Radioactive Frog; Brad Ellis; Cisco certification; nobody_at_groupstudy.com; omar parihuana; Roy Waterman; Smooth IE
Subject: Re: OT - V4, week 1, no new CCIEs?

/me raises hand

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_markom.info>wrote:

> > Also - let's remove the thing about recert with written. Every three
> > years you MUST pass ANY ccie track's lab to recert. Now THAT will be
> > something :)
>
> I actually suspect that's in the making. With the troubleshooting part
> going virtual, I wouldn't at all be surprised to see some sort of a
> mini-lab as recert requirement in the future.
>
> Then again, written as it is now has merit from theoretical
> perspective. In order to pass it, you need to know many technologies
> from less hands-on perspective. In order to be "good expert", one
> should have command of both. I believe this was Cisco's thinking with
> OEQ's. Let me try to pain one picture for you.
>
> Say you are a contractor that has been called out to nervous client
> that needs you to fix 12 problems in their network and need to make
> some 15 changes in it - by the end of the day. At the start of the
> day, their technical team have few questions to clear their minds.
> They ask them. In order to leave good impression and continue to be
> perceived as an expert in their eyes, you need to get them straight.
>
> Raise hands you who have been in this, or very similar, situation. I
> have. This is precisely what CCIE lab is now trying to emulate. I
> think it's good, we just need to work harder to achieve that level of
> expertise. We will be better experts while Cisco keeps raising the
> bar.
>
> ( I will not comment on GUI, as I have not seen it yet )
>
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