Re: CCIE R&S v4.0 results on as good as I hoped

Chris/Andrew
Sorry to hear Chris.. But one thing is sure we know the pain now .. U will
be pass in next attempt.. I am confidient .. ( Please make the fire in ur
heart till u see PASS result) . NO PAIN NO GAIN ..

We do see ur pain and hard work .

keep up the fire in ur studies.. ( study evill ) Scott words are golden
here ..

Mohan

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Re: CCIE R&S v4.0 results on as good as I hoped

Hey Chris,

Yours sounds like mine, a lot like mine. I am sorry to hear that you did
not make it.

Before 10:30 in the morning I knew I failed, after the tshooting section
...
this is hard.

My heart goes out to you Chris.

Not sure what you have going this weekend, but in the grand scheme of
things, there are a lot of things more important that this lab. I might
suggest for you to think of these things, and take a couple of days break
before you begin to plan again. I am still in this phase, and am
gathering
info / perspective for my next steps.

If there is anything we can do for you, please send it out. There are
some
great people on this mailer, and I am sure anyone of us would love to
help,
share perspectives etc ...

Take care Chris and chat soon,

Andrew

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Christopher Copley
<copley.chris_at_gmail.com
> wrote:

> All,
>
> I just got back from the lab yesterday and I have to say the above
comments
> in this post are right on 100%. IMHO there are no more so called core
and
> non-core tasks! You have to now go into the lab with a nearly perfect
> knowledge of EVERY THING on the blue print. In my past studies I
focused
> very hard on L2, L3 & some of the smaller topics like services (i.e.
ntp,
> drp, netflow, etc) I knew well, but knew where they were in the DocCD.
> ***YOU CAN NOT DO THIS NOW!!!!****. With out breaking NDA, lets say
you
> have a question in trouble shooting on what in the past was a Non-Core
> topic. You DO NOT have time to go to the DocCD. You have to be able to
> spit out any solution both Core and Non-Core and any tweek on it with
out
> looking at the DocCD.
>
> I have worked on my company's IT Emergency Response Team for a number of
> years now, and I have to say the way the new Trouble shooting section is
> designed made me feel like I was in a ERT swarm session. The time limit
> and
> the clock counting down adds a TON of pressure!!! The only thing that
was
> missing was a VP, and CIO standing over my shoulder with a upset look on
> their face!!!
>
> I will agree with what everything people are saying about the Trouble
> shooting Section. The question are VERY vague, but in my experience
this
> is
> the type of trouble tickets I get at work. Typically I get tickets from
my
> NOC that say network node "X" is unreachable, and that is ALL that is in
> the
> ticket. I think the CCIE team must have asked customers for copies of
> there
> NOC tickets and emulated them in the exam. This new Trouble Shooting
> section really raises the bar and the focus on the CCIE exam. This is
not
> my first attempt at the lab, and I will say it is totally different that
> the
> V3 lab.
>
> I feel we all have to shift the way we study in order to pass the new
exam.
> I would not say memorize the Non-core tasks but learn them just as well
as
> core tasks. Focus on the Blue Print VERY VERY hard. If it is on the
Blue
> Print know it 125% If you see it on the Blue print you have to be able
to
> spit out every thing on the subject with out the DocCD for any help!!!
>
> OEQ - Same old stuff, nothing new here. But I feel with the new Trouble
> shooting section it is now pointless and a waist of time.
>
> Config section - Just like every one has said, there are less sections,
but
> more tasks in each section. So basically the same old lab in a 5.5 hour
> session. No time for the DocCD if you need help. You have to be in a
rush
> the whole lab. I really recommend that everyone goes any buys a stop
> watch
> and start timing your config sections and find ways to shorten your time
on
> every study section.
>
>
> My results - I dont have the official results yet, but I already know I
> failed. I was not able to get enough trouble tickets done by the time
> limit. I did the math and knew I did not reach the ~80% to pass. When
> the clock hit and I knew I did not pass the TS it took me nearly 30 min
to
> pick my self up and continue on with the config section. Knowing that
the
> rest of my day was basically a waist of my time, I found it VERY hard to
> bring myself to go through the pain of the rest of the lab, when I knew
it
> was in vain.
>
> I am going to go back to study and shift my focus, and try again in
maybe 6
> or 9 months. Service Provider here I come!!!
>
> I hope this helps everyone out there, and good luck!!!
>
> Chris
>
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