Re: CCIE R&S v4.0 results on as good as I hoped

More constructive and extremely techinical posts from the troll.

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On Oct 31, 2009, at 12:16 PM, "Atlanta CCIE" <atlantaccie_at_gmail.com>
wrote:

> Chris - Great Review and sorry to hear you didnt pass. Results are
> not in
> yet so dont give up.
>
> Looks like soon we will have to look at CCIE#s AFTER Oct 18th 2009
> to gauge
> the candidate's skills :) No more free rides (for now). I can
> already see
> how folks got free CCIE#s between Feb-Oct18th 2009 (Yeah bitch all you
> want).
>
> Chris - dont give up and hit back in 30 days.
>
> As for OEQs, I agree and have been saying that.
>
> Let the hate begin :D
>
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Christopher Copley <copley.chris_at_gmail.com
>> wrote:
>
>> Roy,
>>
>> The SP track was actually some thing I was looking to do any
>> way. Being
>> that I am < 24 hours after my lab it might just be emotion
>> speaking. I
>> still want to go back and beat the R&S exam. I have put to much
>> time and
>> dedication in it to quit now! I will get it, i am just not sure
>> of the
>> path I will take to get there now.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Roy Waterman
>> <roy.waterman_at_gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Chris
>>>
>>> Thanks for your feedback & shame you didnt pass this time.
>>> Am just wondering, you mentioned you would be pursuing the SP track.
>>> Knowing what it will take to pass the lab, can I ask why you just
>>> dont
>>> carry on, & prepare to pass it?
>>> After all, if you restart in 6-9 months, it may well take you
>>> longer to
>> get
>>> back up to the stage that you are now?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Roy
>>>
>>> 2009/10/31 Christopher Copley <copley.chris_at_gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> I just got back from the lab yesterday and I have to say the above
>>>> comments
>>>> in this post are right on 100%. IMHO there are no more so
>>>> called core
>>>> and
>>>> non-core tasks! You have to now go into the lab with a nearly
>>>> perfect
>>>> knowledge of EVERY THING on the blue print. In my past studies I
>> focused
>>>> very hard on L2, L3 & some of the smaller topics like services
>>>> (i.e.
>> ntp,
>>>> drp, netflow, etc) I knew well, but knew where they were in the
>>>> DocCD.
>>>> ***YOU CAN NOT DO THIS NOW!!!!****. With out breaking NDA,
>>>> lets say
>> you
>>>> have a question in trouble shooting on what in the past was a Non-
>>>> Core
>>>> topic. You DO NOT have time to go to the DocCD. You have to be
>>>> able to
>>>> spit out any solution both Core and Non-Core and any tweek on it
>>>> with
>> out
>>>> looking at the DocCD.
>>>>
>>>> I have worked on my company's IT Emergency Response Team for a
>>>> number of
>>>> years now, and I have to say the way the new Trouble shooting
>>>> section is
>>>> designed made me feel like I was in a ERT swarm session. The
>>>> time limit
>>>> and
>>>> the clock counting down adds a TON of pressure!!! The only thing
>>>> that
>> was
>>>> missing was a VP, and CIO standing over my shoulder with a upset
>>>> look on
>>>> their face!!!
>>>>
>>>> I will agree with what everything people are saying about the
>>>> Trouble
>>>> shooting Section. The question are VERY vague, but in my
>>>> experience
>> this
>>>> is
>>>> the type of trouble tickets I get at work. Typically I get
>>>> tickets from
>>>> my
>>>> NOC that say network node "X" is unreachable, and that is ALL
>>>> that is in
>>>> the
>>>> ticket. I think the CCIE team must have asked customers for
>>>> copies of
>>>> there
>>>> NOC tickets and emulated them in the exam. This new Trouble
>>>> Shooting
>>>> section really raises the bar and the focus on the CCIE exam.
>>>> This is
>> not
>>>> my first attempt at the lab, and I will say it is totally
>>>> different that
>>>> the
>>>> V3 lab.
>>>>
>>>> I feel we all have to shift the way we study in order to pass the
>>>> new
>>>> exam.
>>>> I would not say memorize the Non-core tasks but learn them just
>>>> as well
>> as
>>>> core tasks. Focus on the Blue Print VERY VERY hard. If it is
>>>> on the
>>>> Blue
>>>> Print know it 125% If you see it on the Blue print you have to
>>>> be able
>> to
>>>> spit out every thing on the subject with out the DocCD for any
>>>> help!!!
>>>>
>>>> OEQ - Same old stuff, nothing new here. But I feel with the new
>>>> Trouble
>>>> shooting section it is now pointless and a waist of time.
>>>>
>>>> Config section - Just like every one has said, there are less
>>>> sections,
>>>> but
>>>> more tasks in each section. So basically the same old lab in a
>>>> 5.5 hour
>>>> session. No time for the DocCD if you need help. You have to be
>>>> in a
>>>> rush
>>>> the whole lab. I really recommend that everyone goes any buys a
>>>> stop
>>>> watch
>>>> and start timing your config sections and find ways to shorten
>>>> your time
>>>> on
>>>> every study section.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My results - I dont have the official results yet, but I already
>>>> know I
>>>> failed. I was not able to get enough trouble tickets done by the
>>>> time
>>>> limit. I did the math and knew I did not reach the ~80% to pass.
>> When
>>>> the clock hit and I knew I did not pass the TS it took me nearly
>>>> 30 min
>> to
>>>> pick my self up and continue on with the config section. Knowing
>>>> that
>> the
>>>> rest of my day was basically a waist of my time, I found it VERY
>>>> hard to
>>>> bring myself to go through the pain of the rest of the lab, when
>>>> I knew
>> it
>>>> was in vain.
>>>>
>>>> I am going to go back to study and shift my focus, and try again in
>> maybe
>>>> 6
>>>> or 9 months. Service Provider here I come!!!
>>>>
>>>> I hope this helps everyone out there, and good luck!!!
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> Roy
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