Re: CCIE V4 lab failed yesterday

   Ditto ,

     In the end , a doctor is a doctor, a lawyer a lawyer, and a CCIE a
CCIE.

     No matter what version of the Bar, Exam, or Lab you passed.

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Nathan Richie <nathanr_at_boice.net> wrote:

> Personally I do not think that it is fair to say one CCIE is better than
> another just because the requirements have changed. My father-in-law got
> the living crap beat out of him for 13 weeks when he went through the boot
> camp for the Marine Corps. I went through a different type of hell for 13
> weeks when I went through the boot camp in the 80's. Guess what! At the
> end, we both received the title of Marine.
>
> Bottom line is, as Narbik pointed out, we just have to change our way of
> thinking, our way of studying, and our way of attacking the lab. Cisco has
> raised the bar in version 3 by returning to more troubleshooting. Awesome!
> I think it is great. But if I don't think it is great, do you really think
> Cisco cares? It is the golden rule.....he who has the gold makes the rules
> :)
>
> So please keep the comments about who is better than who or other personal
> opinions that are not constructive for this list.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Ryan West
> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:25 AM
> To: Atlanta CCIE; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE V4 lab failed yesterday
>
> What version of the lab did you take? Did you have to pass two parts or
> one to get your number? Did you have to take a mini-exam where personal
> interpretation combined with an extremely small sample set determined your
> outcome? I'm sorry to break this to you, but the CCIE numbers didn't jump
> off the charts with OEQ's. The delta between the number of questions you
> could get wrong between your version of the exam and post OEQ's is 4. You
> were given 30 minutes more to complete them and you were able to approach
> the lab with a clear mind. One of the main factors that so many people are
> having trouble with version 4 is that there are two new comers to the exam,
> still fresh OEQs and troubleshooting. To anyone who has sat the exam with
> OEQs, at least one of the questions is hard. It's fairly easy to let those
> questions cloud your mind during the exam. Imagine if you were unsure of
> two, don't you think that would throw you off your game? If you were to
> dissect version 4 in!
> to 3 parts, I'm sure it would be less of a challenge.
>
> Once again, I'm wondering what you actually add to this list, besides
> showing the world that you're a clown puncher.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Atlanta CCIE
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:40 AM
> > To: Gary Duncanson; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: CCIE V4 lab failed yesterday
> >
> > Because you had to score 59 on the lab to pass :)
> >
> > On 11/5/09, Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > Atlanta,
> > >
> > > Can you please clarify why you think the CCIE's who passed between
> > Feb and
>
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