Re: CCIE SP Changes

That's apples and oranges because dynamips. It will let you do 75-80%
of rs and SP. No one had that before.

The labs are significantly cheaper to access now regardless of
inflation.

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On Dec 7, 2009, at 5:43 PM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com> wrote:

> The point being that the cost of everything has changed over the
> years.
> While the lab cost may seem obscenely expensive it's in "today's
> dollars" as the economists like to say. The labs of previous years
> weren't necessarily "cheaper" when viewed in that fashion.
>
> At least unless you're still lamenting when candy bars were 10 cents
> and
> a gallon of gas was under a dollar. ;)
>
> Scott
>
>
> Tony Varriale wrote:
>> What does my income today have to do with the cost of a lab?
>>
>> My point was 5-10 years ago, it was $10k+ for r/s. Today, it's <$5k.
>>
>> Either way, $10k-15k isn't cheap either way you slice it.
>>
>> BTW, I've bought multiple $15k labs. Not on today's income.
>>
>> My lab today was cheap (<$3k).
>>
>> tv
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On
>> Behalf Of
>> Scott Morris
>> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 5:18 PM
>> To: Tony Varriale
>> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> Subject: Re: CCIE SP Changes
>>
>> That's not particularly a good example. Remember how much money you
>> made 5 years ago? How about 10? I do.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Tony Varriale wrote:
>>
>>> If there is a business model, they will be there.
>>>
>>> The lab isn't for people to be able to afford. It isn't their
>>> right.
>>>
>>> Remember what labs cost just 5 years ago? How about 10? I do.
>>>
>>> tv
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On
>>> Behalf Of
>>> Florian Frotzler
>>> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:15 PM
>>> To: Ahmed Elhoussiny
>>> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: Re: CCIE SP Changes
>>>
>>> Let's please not forget that it is the business model of companies
>>> like INE, IPE and all the others to help us all getting our numbers.
>>> So irrespectively of the HW in the blueprint, these companies will
>>> always try to offer remote labs with appropriate HW for reasonable
>>> pricing, because they will not want to lose their customers. Of
>>> course
>>> with a CRS you might need to forget the idea of a homelab, but
>>> what is
>>> really the difference between spending some $ in remote labs or real
>>> HW?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Florian
>>>
>>> 2009/12/7 Ahmed Elhoussiny <aelhoussiny_at_gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello Experts,
>>>>
>>>> how can i be a CCIE SP, and no nothing about CRS-1 & GSR, IOS
>>>> XR !!!!
>>>> yes you can gain the certificate, but you have to know this OS & HW
>>>> architecture if you need to work in an ISP having a new cisco
>>>> backbone,
>>>> CRS-1, GSR & ASR are the basic equipments for any new Cisco
>>>> Backb bone
>>>> design offer.
>>>>
>>>> The CCIE SP must have some changes, introducing GSR & CRS-1...10K
>>>> with
>>>>
>> IOS
>>
>>>> XR
>>>>
>>>> but the draw back will be , how engineers will do the labs for
>>>>
>> preperation
>>
>>>> !!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks & B.regards
>>>> Ahmed Elhoussiny,2x CCIE# 21988 (R&S-SP)
>>>> Network Consultant & Cisco Academy Instructor
>>>>
>>>>
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