Re: OT: Anyone pass V4 lab exam?

And if you can't fix it, open up a TAC case.

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com> wrote:

> Always remember though... Today's "troubleshooting" is tomorrow's
> "experience". :)
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> Justin Mitchell wrote:
> > Perhaps troubleshooting is an art and a science, with a little voodoo
> > mixed in. I also understand that people not studying for the CCIE do
> > it everyday. Some of those people are good at it and some are
> > horrible, just like anything else.
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> > Real life troubleshooting is even worse because you involve clients,
> > other engineers, third-party vendors, TAC and you usually have more
> > than 2 hours for one trouble ticket which means you can dilly dally
> > until you find the solution, make things up, use a lifeline, etc.
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> > Justin
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> > On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Majonestx <majonestx_at_gmail.com
> > <mailto:majonestx_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
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> > @Kermit
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> > I disagree, how can troubleshooting be such an art when most doing
> > it (not studying for ccie) don't know the technology.
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> > Real world troubleshooting would prove to be most beneficial in
> > "real world" environments, which ccie lab is not.
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> > I've worked at few places with HUGE networks and can say in my lab
> > attempt, not once did I solve a task pulling from expereince from
> > the "good ole days" at Dell.
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> > The ccie is a controlled environment along with the labs. Knowing
> > the technologies (vol 1) is ur biggest weapon. IMHO
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> > On Dec 13, 2009, at 9:05 PM, Justin Mitchell <jgmitchell_at_gmail.com
> > <mailto:jgmitchell_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
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> > Nope, I'm not scared. No reason to be.
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> > Justin G. Mitchell
> > Sent from my G1 mobile phone
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> > On Dec 13, 2009 7:08 PM, "Radioactive Frog"
> > <pbhatkoti_at_gmail.com <mailto:pbhatkoti_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
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> > Guys,
> > don't get too serious about what I said! That was just my view
> > and the fact
> > that troubleshooting skills doesn't just come overnight
> > practicing the
> > workbook. Thats where the real experience kicks in.
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> > I was told by someone that there could be around 3000+
> > scenarios in the
> > troubleshooting section and Cisco will keep this up and growing.
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> > The chances of dumping 3000+ troubleshooting scenarios are
> > pretty thin.
> > Therefore you can't see anyone is passing. Take the truth or
> > proove me
> > wrong.
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> > Again, I may be wrong here!
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> > Have I scared all of you now?
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> > -Kermitt!
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> > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 3:09 AM, Justin Mitchell
> > <jgmitchell_at_gmail.com <mailto:jgmitchell_at_gmail.com>>
> > wrote: > > As someone who...
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