Re: What about the troubleshooting part - allowed commands

In the many INE materials that mimic the actual lab exam - all Troubleshooting commands are available and encouraged.

The Volume 4 workbook (alluded to in this thread) is not meant to mimic the actual CCIE lab exam directly. It is a learning tool for Troubleshooting that is attempting to force exploration of more than "show run" in certain instances.

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Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626
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On Jan 27, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Narbik Kocharians wrote:

> When there is a problem, i recommend doing anything possible to fix the
> problem as fast as possible, but to say you can not use the show run to
> resolve a problem, its crazy, i dont think you will face that in the real
> world or the CCIE lab. Could you imagine, you walk in to your clients firm,
> and he asks you to fix this problem without using the following SHOW
> commands.
> Next thing you know they will remap the keys on the keyboard.
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com> wrote:
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>> It is crazy to rely on show run if you are dealing with a significant
>> amount of routers. Why not learn to let the routers/switches tell you what
>> the problem is?
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>> Yes, it's a useful tool, but it doesn't preclude needing to know other
>> things.
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>> Narbik Kocharians wrote:
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>> It is crazy to do bunch of show commands with regexp just to avoid the sh
>> runs, show run is a useful tool when Troubleshooting.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:11 AM, S Malik <ccie.09_at_gmail.com> <ccie.09_at_gmail.com> wrote:
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>> If you like to Master the troubleshooting then please do it without using
>> "sh run".
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>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com
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>> wrote:
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>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 08:31, CCIE-Newbie <ccie_ka_at_gmx.de> <ccie_ka_at_gmx.de> wrote:
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>> Hi group,
>>
>> currently I'm playing around with troubleshooting labs.
>> Please can anyone tell me if can do a "show run" or just like "show run
>> int x/y " ??
>>
>>
>> Yes, you can. There are no artificial restrictions in that section.
>>
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>>
>> I heard it is not allowed in the troubleshooting section to do this
>> commands !!
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>> Some training vendors have troubleshooting labs in which they impose
>> this restriction to force you not to use your best troubleshooting
>> tool ( ;-) ), with the purpose to learn other show and debug commands.
>> It's not something you will see on the lab, however.
>>
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