Blah, blah, blah...   Dude, People have been saying the same thing about
devaluation for the past 11+ years since I was studying/getting/got my
CCIE!
Amazingly enough, there's still plenty of jobs...  There still plenty of
$$ to go with them...  There is still plenty of people looking for CCIEs.
Why don't some people have jobs?  Because like ANY other industry it's
not just about a title/piece-of-paper/number/whatever.  It's about the
person and their experiences that go along with the knowledge.
Scott Morris, CCIEx4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
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darth router wrote:
  It's one step closer to assembly line mass production. At that point, simple
  economics devalues it. The CCIE is valuable because of it's reputation of
  expertise, and because it is rare. If he former or latter go away, then
  what?
  
  Possibly no proctor? Lame. Less security as it's run by a third party
  company? (we all know what this means) Lame. Cisco, the company? Mega gay
  lame. Oh well, we should all know that putting our eggs in the same basket
  isn't the smartest idea. Time to diversity!
  
  On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Dark Fiber   <darkfiber08_at_gmail.com>   wrote:
    You guys are all so funny! How does this devalue the cert? You are
    still taking the same exam and need to know the same material. What is
    the difference between this and the mobile lab? Sounds as if alot of
    people are looking for any excuse not to study and take the easy why
    out by saying the CCIE is worthless now I quit...
    On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Anthony Faria     <tfaria72_at_gmail.com>     wrote:
      LMAO
      
      On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 10:20 AM, John Pelletier <      john.pelletier_at_altima-group.com      > wrote:
        When I said Cisco is becoming more and more like MS some people jumped
    all
        over that statement. I wish I could pick em like that at the racetrack I
        would
        be a rich man.
        --- On Tue, 2/9/10, Joseph L. Brunner         <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>         wrote:
        From: Joseph L. Brunner         <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>        Subject: RE: CCIE R&S Lab Exam at Pearson ?
        To: "Ramanpreet Singh"         <sikandar.raman_at_gmail.com>        , "CCIE Groupstudy"        <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>        Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 1:34 AM
        Excellent.
        
        I'm going to China to get my Medical License, My Gulfstream V Pilot's
        License,
        Certified Bank Examiner License, and oh, and my security CCIE.
        
        "High-Stakes" Wasn't that a Steven Seagal Movie?
        
        -Joe
        
        -----Original Message-----
        From:         nobody_at_groupstudy.com         [        mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com        ] On Behalf Of
        Ramanpreet Singh
        Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:14 PM
        To: CCIE Groupstudy
        Subject: CCIE R&S Lab Exam at Pearson ?
        
        ---
          February 8, 2010
        
        New CCIE R&S Lab Exam Opportunities
        
        To increase testing opportunities for certification candidates, Cisco.
    will
        be offering the CCIE. Routing and Switching lab exam in additional
        locations
        in April 2010, as listed below. The exams will be administered at
    Pearson
        Professional Centers which are designed for secure, high-stakes
        professional
        exams and have been used by medical, legal and other examination boards
    for
        over eight years. Cisco already uses Pearson Professional Centers to
        administer the practical exam for CCDE. (Cisco Certified Design Expert).
        More information on the centers is available at        www.pearsonvue.com/cisco/ccie        <        http://ciscocert.custhelp.com/rd?1=AvUE~wrBDP8S        x7bRGmce~yL~Jvkq~5T~RIAymDr~&2=3765<
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        All CCIE R&S lab exams--whether taken on a Cisco campus, at Pearson
        Professional Centers, or at a temporary mobile lab location--are
    presented
        in the same format using the same equipment, have the same point values,
        and
        address the same exam topics. You will not need to adjust your
    preparation
        in any way.
        
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    great
        opportunity to take the exam in a location convenient to you. Contact
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        register. If you are already scheduled for a CCIE R&S lab exam in
        another
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         *CCIE R&S Lab Exam Locations*
        
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        April 10, 2010
        
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        April 8, 2010
        
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        (New) Delhi, India
        
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        Istanbul, Turkey
        
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        London, UK
        
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        Montreal, Canada
        
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        San Jose, CA, USA
        
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        Sao Paolo, Brazil
        
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        Seoul, South Korea
        
        April 13, 2010
        
        Shanghai, PR China
        
        April 9, 2010
        
        Singapore
        
        April 8, 2010
        
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        Tokyo, Japan
        
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