RE: OEQ Waiver program! No MORE OEQ for Cisco 360 students.

I am a pilot, so I'd probably just fly myself. But if I had to pick one,
I'd pick the one who'd make it there without any required NTSB reports
or insurance claims!

Becoming a good pilot is something that comes from experience - similar
to a CCIE. The more situations you've encountered and "lived to tell
about it" the better of a pilot you become - learning from the situation
and any potential mistakes you made. Granted, having a router or switch
go down on you is nothing like taking a direct hit by lightning in a
small single engine airplane IMC at 10,000ft MSL, 3,000ft AGL and then
instruments catching on fire! (that'll get your blood pumpin!)

My feeling is, the OEQ Waiver program is just a part of the Cisco 360
program. I believe the test itself isn't changing. In my opinion, core
knowledge is simply being validated by an authorized training program
and an authorized training instructor. The waiver has to be approved by
the instructor. For our Cisco 360 students: if you don't participate in
the class, you don't do your labs, etc, then the Cisco 360 instructor
isn't going to validate your core knowledge and he/she will NOT issue
you a waiver. The student has to EARN the waiver - heck, I'm a dual
CCIE, I want my CCIE to be as industry valid as the day I got it.

The CCIE certification has changed throughout the years, and will
continue to do so. I'm sure more changes will be coming (technical or
administrative), more CCIE tracks added, etc. It's an ever-evolving
program.

thanks,

Brad Ellis

CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)

CCSI# 30482

CEO / President

CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)

Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com

Toll Free: 877-654-2243

International: +1-702-968-5100

Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call

FAX: +1-702-446-8012

YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!

Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
<http://www.ccbootcamp.com/>

OEQ Voice Waiver: http://www.ccbootcamp.com/noeqvoice.html

Qualify for an OEQ R&S Waiver: http://www.ccbootcamp.com/noeqrs.html

From: Travis Niedens [mailto:niedentj_at_hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 11:43 PM
To: Brad Ellis; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: OEQ Waiver program! No MORE OEQ for Cisco 360 students.

Now, the question is, which pilot would you rather fly with ?

> Subject: RE: OEQ Waiver program! No MORE OEQ for Cisco 360 students.
> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:36:19 -0700
> From: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>
> Compare the OEQ Waiver program to the different ways of obtaining your
> pilot's license, Part 61 vs. Part 141 (and I'll save you the google:
> http://www.m0a.com/learning-fly-part-61-141/ )
>
> With Part 61, it's a less structured and controlled approach with an
FAA
> examiner "check ride" at the end. With Part 141 it has more "checks
and
> balances" throughout the training program in which you are validated
at
> each step of the process. The curriculum is much more regulated and
much
> more well defined. When you finish the program, you have your pilot's
> license (after an in-house final check). The FAA finds that both of
> these methods are effective for pilot's obtaining their license.
>
> By Cisco offering this waiver program, it would appear similar to Part
> 141 - validate student's core knowledge during the study process.
>
> thanks,
> Brad Ellis
> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> CCSI# 30482
> CEO / President
> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
> Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
> Toll Free: 877-654-2243
> International: +1-702-968-5100
> Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call
> FAX: +1-702-446-8012
> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
> Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
> Qualify for an OEQ Voice Waiver:
> http://www.ccbootcamp.com/noeqvoice.html
> Qualify for an OEQ R&S Waiver: http://www.ccbootcamp.com/noeqrs.html
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: itguy.pro_at_gmail.com [mailto:itguy.pro_at_gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 11:07 PM
> To: Steve Di Bias; JB
> Cc: Joe Astorino; Marko Milivojevic; Brad Ellis;
ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: OEQ Waiver program! No MORE OEQ for Cisco 360 students.
>
> Brad,
>
> On a serious note: what were you smoking when you suggested this
asinine
> idea to cisco? And what were they on when you were explaining it? What
> did they say? Omfg, what a brilliant idea, why didn't we think of this
> before to screw potential CCIEs in the butt with both hands on
shoulder?
>
>
> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
>
>
Received on Tue Mar 16 2010 - 00:04:29 ART