Re: microsoft lync 2010 Vs Call manager

 Isn't that why you get the DVD's and have a database backup? :)

Scott

On 1/11/11 9:19 PM, Joseph L. Brunner wrote:

  Most of the time it doesn't take a call manager "virus" on the newer Linux RH platforms to bring the system down. Just simple things like someone changed the password the wrong way and the box needs to be RMA. Try it.
  
  I would have had better luck recovering from an "rm -rf /*.*
  
  -Joe
  
  -----Original Message-----
  From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [ mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com ] On Behalf Of Scott Morris
  Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 8:55 PM
  To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com Subject: Re: microsoft lync 2010 Vs Call manager
  
  Ya know... I'll say the same thing about that as I did about Cisco's
  CallManager when it was on a Windoze platform....
  
  If you stick your voice servers onto a network accessible to/from the
  Internet, and don't pay attention to things like that, you deserve to
  have that machine get a virus!
  
  There are plenty of solutions out there even outside of sane network
  design that will help out. So don't go using that as an excuse, it's a
  stupid one. Ranks right up there with the "smart" people who believe
  that Mac's don't get viruses.

  *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
  
  CCDE #2009::D, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
  
  CCSI #21903, JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
  swm_at_emanon.com
  
  Knowledge is power.
  
  Power corrupts.
  
  Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......

  On 1/11/11 3:35 PM, John Haddad wrote:

    thanks a lot Joe for the feedback....
    one point to say:
    
    MS will be hosted on Windows machines which can be effected by virus easily
    ===>call manager won also :)

      From: joe_at_affirmedsystems.com To: loserboy3000_at_hotmail.com ; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com Subject: RE: microsoft lync 2010 Vs Call manager
      Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:57:18 +0000
      
      You know something John?
      
      So save 60% of the costs....
      
      I think I would go with Microsoft if I was your boss.
      
      1. Do you need special codecs?
      
      2. Third party apps do - many lawfirms are already using FEAC with MS OCS

    2007 R2.

      3. MS has contact center, Team Viewer and Roundtable which are FAR better

    than webex...

      Please read http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/41653
      4. I think you need to read up on Microsoft a little more -

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb894539%28office.12%29.aspx

      The Cisco product is great for very rich companies that don't want the

    hastle of co-mingling the Server and the Voice worlds - but any sane company
    would use the

      MS solution for no other reason than $$$.. 400 users with UCM is about

    $250,000 (not including PoE switches)

      I just priced this out in November 2010.
      
      -Joe

      -----Original Message-----
      From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [ mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com ] On Behalf Of John

    Haddad

      Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:41 AM
      To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com Subject: microsoft lync 2010 Vs Call manager
      
      Hi to everyone,
      
      i am searing since a week for a good reason to convenience our management

    to

      go with call manager instead of Microsoft Solution, but i couldn't the only
      thing which i found is the following
      
      1-MS doesn't support special type of video codex
      2- MS doesn't support the Forced Authorization Code
      3-MS doesn't offer contact center solution, and also webex
      4-MS solution is layer 7 application which deals with voice like any other
      programs it will not treat it as priority traffic !!!
      
      On the other hand
      MS will give us
      1- unlimited number of softphones which will reduce the cost of the

    comparison

      a lot
      2-MS will support Voice messaging, auto attended feature as well
      
      we are planning to go with 400 users, but till now i cannot convince the
      management and convince myself regarding MS product.
      
      If you can help me to judge which product is better and why that will be
      great.

      Thx,

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