Re: microsoft lync 2010 Vs Call manager

 Either way is fine. Doesn't warrant an RMA was my point.

Your wording. ;)

Scott

On 1/11/11 11:14 PM, Joseph L. Brunner wrote:

You do that, and I=E2=80=99ll hit =E2=80=9Csnapshot=E2=80=9D restore from=
 vcenter.

I=E2=80=99ll race you!

From: Scott Morris [mailto:swm_at_emanon.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:45 PM
To: Joseph L. Brunner
Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: microsoft lync 2010 Vs Call manager

Isn't that why you get the DVD's and have a database backup? :)

Scott

On 1/11/11 9:19 PM, Joseph L. Brunner wrote:

Most of the time it doesn't take a call manager "virus" on the newer Linu=
x RH platforms to bring the system down. Just simple things like someone =
changed the password the wrong way and the box needs to be RMA. Try it.

I would have had better luck recovering from an "rm -rf /*.*

-Joe

-----Original Message-----

From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of S=
cott Morris

Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 8:55 PM

To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com

Subject: Re: microsoft lync 2010 Vs Call manager

Ya know... I'll say the same thing about that as I did about Cisco's

CallManager when it was on a Windoze platform....

If you stick your voice servers onto a network accessible to/from the

Internet, and don't pay attention to things like that, you deserve to

have that machine get a virus!

There are plenty of solutions out there even outside of sane network

design that will help out. So don't go using that as an excuse, it's a

stupid one. Ranks right up there with the "smart" people who believe

that Mac's don't get viruses.

*Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,

CCDE #2009::D, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.

CCSI #21903, JNCI-M, JNCI-ER

swm_at_emanon.com

Knowledge is power.

Power corrupts.

Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......

On 1/11/11 3:35 PM, John Haddad wrote: =20

  thanks a lot Joe for the feedback....

  one point to say:

  MS will be hosted on Windows machines which can be effected by virus ea=
sily

  =3D=3D=3D>call manager won also :)

    From: joe_at_affirmedsystems.com

    To: loserboy3000_at_hotmail.com ; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com

    Subject: RE: microsoft lync 2010 Vs Call manager

    Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:57:18 +0000

    You know something John?

    So save 60% of the costs....

    I think I would go with Microsoft if I was your boss.

    1. Do you need special codecs?

    2. Third party apps do - many lawfirms are already using FEAC with MS=
 OCS =20

  2007 R2. =20

    3. MS has contact center, Team Viewer and Roundtable which are FAR be=
tter =20

  than webex... =20

    Please read http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/41653

    4. I think you need to read up on Microsoft a little more - =20

  http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb894539%28office.12%29.aspx=
   =20

    The Cisco product is great for very rich companies that don't want th=
e =20

  hastle of co-mingling the Server and the Voice worlds - but any sane co=
mpany

  would use the =20

    MS solution for no other reason than $$$.. 400 users with UCM is abou=
t =20

  $250,000 (not including PoE switches) =20

    I just priced this out in November 2010.

    -Joe

    -----Original Message-----

    From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [ mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com=
    ] On Behalf Of John =20

  Haddad =20

    Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:41 AM

    To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com

    Subject: microsoft lync 2010 Vs Call manager

    Hi to everyone,

    i am searing since a week for a good reason to convenience our manage=
ment =20

  to =20

    go with call manager instead of Microsoft Solution, but i couldn't th=
e only

    thing which i found is the following

    1-MS doesn't support special type of video codex

    2- MS doesn't support the Forced Authorization Code

    3-MS doesn't offer contact center solution, and also webex

    4-MS solution is layer 7 application which deals with voice like any =
other

    programs it will not treat it as priority traffic !!!

    On the other hand

    MS will give us

    1- unlimited number of softphones which will reduce the cost of the =20

  comparison =20

    a lot

    2-MS will support Voice messaging, auto attended feature as well

    we are planning to go with 400 users, but till now i cannot convince =
the

    management and convince myself regarding MS product.

    If you can help me to judge which product is better and why that will=
 be

    great.

    Thx,

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