Re: MacBook pro - OT

all the contractors in cisco are given a lenovo with windows..and a large
number of FTE's still have them also..a good guess would be that the mac
users have increased by 4 fold in the last 6 yrs..

On 6/27/11 11:35 AM, "Ccieyarub" <ccieyarub_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Comm on not every one in cisco works with cisco is in Mac there are still so
> many using IBM thinkpads :)
>
>
> On 2011-06-27, at 12:16 PM, marc edwards <renorider_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hmmmmm. Everyone at Cisco works on Mac's. Seems like all of us in this
>> string are fans of Macs. Virtualization allows for any platform to
>> work within a MAC.
>>
>> Sorry to disagree Narbik, I believe that MAC's are comparable and
>> affordable versus the Business class series of Dell/HP. I run a mini
>> at home that costed under $800 with 8 gb of RAM. A pro can be bought
>> for under $1500 which is cheaper than my work spent on the HP I am
>> typing on. Macs are more power friendly so there could be realized
>> cost savings on running them. Especially over the lifetime of the
>> device.
>>
>> If my boss gives me a Windows box, I most likely throw Ubuntu on it
>> and virtualize the windows environment anyways. Windows has seen its
>> hayday and I think times are changing. This is more than just a trend,
>> it is a technological revolution. Stay ahead of the curve and buy a
>> MAC!
>>
>> Marc Edwards
>> http://reno-ccie.blogsppot.com
>> http://cisco-voyage.blogspot.com
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>> John,
>>>
>>> I could be wrong but i honestly think it's the price.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, john matijevic
>>> <john.matijevic_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Helllo Team,
>>>>
>>>> I also considered an Apple, but from working with Fortune 500 companies, I
>>>> find that more businesses uses Windows PCs.
>>>> At least most likely a Windows PC will be assigned rather than a MAC, from
>>>> a
>>>> business point of view. Perhaps smaller companies allow you to be more
>>>> flexible, bigger businesses tend to lease equipment and assign to keep
>>>> standard from support point of view.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have to agree with "1 year" reevaluation. I haven't touched OG for
>>>>> more than a year now, but I kept an eye on it. I don't see any
>>>>> dramatic changes. 100% compatibility with Visio would be a must, yet I
>>>>> doubt we'll ever see that. I'm still hoping for a miracle from
>>>>> Microsoft and a Mac version of Visio :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
>>>>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>>>>>
>>>>> FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture
>>>>>
>>>>> Mailto: markom_at_ipexpert.com
>>>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>>>>> Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 08:14, Carl Gosselin <carl.gosselin_at_altizone.com
>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Yes I tried Omnigraffle and I too was not too impressed with the
>>>> results
>>>>> but
>>>>>> what really killed my hopes for going Mac only was the fact that you
>>>> had
>>>>> to
>>>>>> go through a web site for file conversion between Omnigraffle and
>>>> Visio.
>>>>>> Like sharing files with otherB collaboratorsB pr clients isn't aB
>>>>> necessity!!!
>>>>>> I tried Cross-Over for Visio but I found that the video rendering
>>>>> wasn't up
>>>>>> to par.... VMware Fusion in Unity mode gives me the best of both
>>>>> worlds...
>>>>>> I haven't reevaluated for over a year now maybe things improved but I'm
>>>>>> happy with my setup.
>>>>>> -Carl
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Marko Milivojevic <
>>>> markom_at_ipexpert.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh - add one more. Actually 6 more (that's how much I love Macs). My
>>>>>>> workhorse is 27" iMac and my laptop is 17" MBP with 8G RAM and SSD.
>>>>>>> You would have to pry them from my dead cold hands to replace them
>>>>>>> with Windows machines.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And again - Visio is the only reason for me having VMware. OmniGraffle
>>>>>>> is just a toy in comparison, I'm afraid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
>>>>>>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mailto: markom_at_ipexpert.com
>>>>>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>>>>>>> Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 06:49, Jeferson Guardia <jefersonf_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> wow.. I didnt expect this discussion to go so further nor I didnt
>>>>> expect
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>> many CCIE's crazy for macs :-) I thought I was one of kind along
>>>> with
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>> other guys.. great points raised though.. I was really interested on
>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>> the 512GB SSD but it's like 1,2k more.. It's gotta be really worth
>>>> it
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>> on that extra money.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've heard I can buy a 128gb SSD unit later on and replace my CD
>>>> drive
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> that HD.. I might do that.. :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks for everyone's contributtion, my mac is coming really soon
>>>> and
>>>>> im
>>>>>>>> getting rid of everything including my dell's employee i5..
>>>> whatever!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Jeferson Guardia
>>>>>>>> CCIE #28157
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2011/6/27 Rick Mur <rmur_at_ipexpert.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You can just call me by name Scott ;-) It's been a while since I
>>>> sat
>>>>>>>>> across
>>>>>>>>> of you ;)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have the 11" Air with 1.6Ghz and 4GB RAM and 128GB SSD. I can do
>>>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>>>> on this machine as I could on my previous Core 2 Duo 17" Macbook
>>>> Pro.
>>>>>>>>> VMware
>>>>>>>>> runs blazing fast! As Scott mentioned I use Windows mostly for
>>>> Visio
>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> OmniGraffle has the worst Visio export ever and I kind-of need to
>>>>> share
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> files with other people. So yeah I also need Windows for just 1
>>>> app.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rick Mur
>>>>>>>>> CCIE3 #21946 (R&S / SP / Storage), JNCIP-M #1352
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The SSD is well worth it IMHO. B Power-on is awesome. B Even with
>>>>>>>>>> full
>>>>>>>>>> disk encryption, I'm up and logging in within 15 seconds and
>>>> ready
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> rock in about 30 seconds. B :) B (If disk check needs to be run
>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> may be
>>>>>>>>>> 60 seconds, but still much better than normal HDD!)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Omnigraffle as mentioned works well for Visio files. B But just
>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> easily, VMware Fusion with an XP image should run blazing fast
>>>>>>>>>> (faster
>>>>>>>>>> on Mac/VM than on my Lenovo T61!).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But Visio and Quicken are about the only things that I rely on
>>>>>>>>>> Windoze
>>>>>>>>>> for any longer. B Other than the occasional #$*&#ing web site
>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> requires Internet Exploder.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I own the 17" and love it. B Even though large, it's still quite
>>>>>>>>>> light.
>>>>>>>>>> But with the new versions of things, the 15" MBP or 15" Aire
>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> just as good in most instances.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm sitting across from someone running the Aire with SSD and
>>>>> swears
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> does everything he needs!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pricey yes, but definitely worth it IMHO!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider)
>>>>>>>>>> #4713,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> CCDE #2009::D, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIE-ER #102, CISSP, et al.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> CCSI #21903, JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> swm_at_emanon.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Knowledge is power.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Power corrupts.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/26/11 4:54 AM, Jeferson Guardia wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> wow this topic raised SO many good opinions and advices.. Im
>>>>>>>>>>> definetly
>>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>>> for a mac.. :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So, do you guys think is worth adding an extra 1200 USD for
>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> 500GB SSD ? My friend told me its just AWESOME.. I think I`ll
>>>> get
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> 15inch
>>>>>>>>>>> i7 8gb with that 500gb SSD.. is gonna be a little bit expensive
>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> nice machine..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks everyone for jumping in :) fun times!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/6/25 Carl Gosselin <carl.gosselin_at_altizone.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I own the 17" MacBook Pro, being a consultant I found it gave
>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> best
>>>>>>>>>>>> package as a mobile office and I don't think it's heavy to
>>>> carry
>>>>>>>>> around.
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> do appreciate the aluminum casing for durability and style!! I
>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>> Time
>>>>>>>>>>>> Capsule at home for wireless backups... Other then that I use
>>>>>>>>>>>> iTerm
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> VMware fusion for Visio and other Windows app. I did run into
>>>>>>>>>>>> issues
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> Parallel that pushed me towards fusion but that 3 years ago...
>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> paid
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> the 8GB RAM and 500GB SSD and it was worth it!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>> I would never go back now that I went Mac!!
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Carl
>>>>>>>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ==============================
>>>>>>>>>>>> Carl Gosselin CCIE R&S Voice #15228
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2011-06-25, at 20:53, Alexei Monastyrnyi <
>>>>> alexeim73_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My wife has a 13" one, the only downside is no anti-glare
>>>>> screen
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> this screen size. VMWare Fusion is good, although they say
>>>>>>>>> Parallelsis
>>>>>>>>>>>> 20% faster. And you may find them quite warm siting on your
>>>> lap
>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>> they are running. :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>> A.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/26/2011 6:53 AM, Jeferson Guardia wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry.. This is Totally OT .. I know that..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm a network eng.. Working a lot on pre-sales (visio diags
>>>>> etc)
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> lots of routing voice etc..
>>>>>>>>>>>> I wanna get rid of my Dell and get a mac pro for work and
>>>>> fun..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Which one should I get .. The 13.3 , 15 or 17? I don't want
>>>>>>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>>>>>>> very heavy because I move a lot.. So I don't think of getting
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> 17
>>>>>>>>>> inch..
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any recommendations from Mac users working on networks and
>>>>> stuff??
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> B ............................
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeferson Guardia
>>>>>>>>>>>> CCIE #28157
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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