OK OK I'm backing off. :) It was just funny to see you asking about 
cheap hardware while venting about hardware failures in the same thread. 
As I said, to each their own. Have a good weekend....
-Hammer-
"I was a normal American nerd"
-Jack Herer
On 09/16/2011 04:47 PM, Networking Dude wrote:
> Yea, hardware, all covered by smartnet. Quit picking on me :P Yea, 
> that's the magic of Cisco, and the downfall. The support everything, 
> but don't support everything very well. Lots of bugs, at least on the 
> enterprise class equipment. Larger platforms I still love. I work in a 
> small ISP, so use Cisco boxes in the DSLAM (don't try it at home 
> kids). I would go redback if I had the budget. I'd use small juniper 
> boxes if they supported PPPoE servers. So am stick with LinkCisco at 
> the moment. Hopefully with Cisco ditching all of their regarded 
> products like the flip, they can start making real routers again.
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 2:38 PM, -Hammer- <bhmccie_at_gmail.com 
> <mailto:bhmccie_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Features bring bugs. It's a fact of life. As for your other
>     failures, they all sound hardware related. :) Interesting.
>
>     -Hammer-
>
>     "I was a normal American nerd"
>     -Jack Herer
>
>          
>
>
>     On 09/16/2011 04:34 PM, Networking Dude wrote:
>>     ISRs? I'm never so lucky, had a gazillion fan failures, power
>>     supply failures, and constant code bugs. They probably work great
>>     if your just slapping IPs and a routing protocol on them, but I
>>     do all sorts of black magic on mine. 7200 and up on the other
>>     hand seem to work great.
>>
>>     On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 2:31 PM, David Bass
>>     <davidbass570_at_gmail.com <mailto:davidbass570_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Actually, they charge a lot more then that, but they're worth it.
>>
>>         Maybe I'm lucky, but have had very few issues with them and
>>         have had datacenters with thousands of them deployed...
>>
>>         Crazy when you place a couple hundred k order that's just SFPs...
>>
>>
>>         On Sep 16, 2011, at 3:59 PM, Networking Dude
>>         <ccie_at_routefilter.com <mailto:ccie_at_routefilter.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         > hahahaha! no. Cisco charges up to 200 bucks for some of
>>         their SFPs, which
>>         > are the same as the 22 dollar ones coming out of China.
>>         It's just a matter
>>         > of finding which Chinese companies sells good ones.
>>         >
>>         > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 1:41 PM, -Hammer-
>>         <bhmccie_at_gmail.com <mailto:bhmccie_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
>>         >
>>         >> www.cisco.com <http://www.cisco.com>?
>>         >>
>>         >> -Hammer-
>>         >>
>>         >> "I was a normal American nerd"
>>         >> -Jack Herer
>>         >>
>>         >>
>>         >>
>>         >> On 09/16/2011 03:39 PM, Networking Dude wrote:
>>         >>> I need some reliable SFPs. Bought a crap load of
>>         1000-base T ones about
>>         >> 22$
>>         >>> a pop, and they are crap. Machined poorly, high DOA rate.
>>         Anyone know
>>         >> where
>>         >>> I can get some good batches from a US vendor on the cheap?
>>         >>>
>>         >>>
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