Re: CCIE R&S Discouraged

2 days trying to fix it by himself and next day TEC rescued him ((;

On Tuesday, December 6, 2011, Charlie::/128 <spycharlies_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> am not Chinese nor do I believe people actually cheat in the lab exam,
but
> am deeply saddened by the comments of Joseph L. Brunner ,...someone can
> actually say such things in a public forum, wow!
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Joe Astorino
> <joeastorino1982_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I will add one more thing for you to think about. I've always thought of
>> the CCIE as the "special forces" of the networking world. That is just
my
>> little thing...but anyways I was watching on the military channel the
other
>> day a special on the US Army Ranger school. If you don't know the US
Army
>> Rangers are the most elite special forces combat soldiers in the US army.
>>
>> There was one scene in that special that was really interesting. When
they
>> are killing these guys in training (like keeping them up for 48 hours
>> straight in the midst of brutal mental and physical abuse and stress, and
>> THEN having them run 30 miles with 80 pound packs on) the entire time you
>> know what the instructors are saying? "Why don't you go ahead and quit,
>> Ranger?" "Go ahead and quit" "If you quit right now, you can go to
sleep"
>> "You don't belong here, QUIT" ....Most do, but the minority don't and the
>> minority become US Army Rangers. They get their Ranger tab and become
the
>> most elite in THEIR industry. They didn't quit
>>
>> Why? There has to be a deep rooted something in their brain that
motivates
>> them to push on, to meet the objective, to say that failure and quitting
is
>> not an option. That's what you need man you just have to find out what
>> that is for you. So what are you going to do? Go ahead and quit CCIE
>> candidate...
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Joe Astorino <joeastorino1982_at_gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Believe me -- There is a world of difference between somebody that has
>> > cheated their way to the top and somebody that has worked their way to
>> the
>> > top. That goes for everything in life, not just the CCIE lab. Can it
be
>> > cheated? Maybe. Does that effect you personally? Only if you let it.
>> > Everybody has their motivations and their own things that make them
tick
>> to
>> > willingly put themselves in the situation to suffer in order to obtain
>> > greatness. What is yours? You really need to think about that,
because
>> > when the going gets tough like it is right now for you, you need to
>> remind
>> > yourself why you are doing this.
>> >
>> > These cheaters are not going to prosper in the real world. Remember,
the
>> > CCIE is a foot in the door. When you show up for an interview, likely
>> with
>> > other CCIEs and you don't know what a type 3 LSA is or how to
configure a
>> > basic BGP peering, or what the administrative distance of EIGRP
external
>> > routes are, you will fail the technical interview and you will not get
a
>> > job. If you manage to get a job, you will likely be fired in short
time
>> > because you don't have the skillset to do your job and you have no
>> > integrity.
>> >
>> > Don't quit man we are all here supporting you to become an expert. I
>> > would encourage you to do some soul searching and really find the
answer
>> to
>> > your own question "why am I doing this" because you will need the
answer
>> > somewhere along your journey. For me personally, it was mostly for
>> > learning and because I wanted to be the most elite and best in my
chosen
>> > field. Also, knowing that you can get a better job and a higher salary
>> do
>> > not hurt...but for me personally it was all about proving something to
>> > myself and continuing to grow as an engineer and as a person.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Joe Astorino
>> > CCIE #24347
>> > Blog: http://astorinonetworks.com
>> >
>> > "He not busy being born is busy dying" - Dylan
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Joe Astorino
>> CCIE #24347
>> Blog: http://astorinonetworks.com
>>
>> "He not busy being born is busy dying" - Dylan
>>
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