Get back to studying and stop worrying about what other people are doing, unless they are  your study partners. 
Regards,
 Joe Sanchez
On Mar 2, 2012, at 1:32 PM, Ronnie Angello <ronnie.angello_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Haters...  LOL
> 
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Sadiq Yakasai <sadiqtanko_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> And I also agree! :-)
>> 
>> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Imran Ali <immrccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Cant agree more !
>>> 
>>> wonder how people find time to do research for other achievments and then
>>> try to say he cheeted !
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Prakash Kalsaria <
>>> kalsaria.prakash_at_gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> We should concentrate on studies rather than judging the other people
>>>> achievements .....
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent on my BlackBerry.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Imran Ali <immrccie_at_gmail.com>
>>>> Sender: nobody_at_groupstudy.com
>>>> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 20:12:27
>>>> To: Tony Blanco<blancoj17_at_yahoo.com>
>>>> Reply-To: Imran Ali <immrccie_at_gmail.com>
>>>> Cc: Narbik Kocharians<narbikk_at_gmail.com>; James Poplawski<
>>>> jb.poplawski_at_gmail.com>; Duncan Maccubbin<
>> duncan.maccubbin_at_earthlink.net
>>>> ;
>>>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: Three CCIE certifications in 7 months!!!
>>>> 
>>>> why you see people complaining about others...
>>>> 
>>>> because  ccie is battle where only few human beings have courage to
>> work
>>>> through the painful journey and get the no's.  it happens such that
>> along
>>>> the journey some  loos motivation ...and starts looking for " EXCUSES "
>>> for
>>>> discountuning the journey .
>>>> 
>>>> dont get me wrong  i am just trying to bring my point ....  No need to
>>>> worry if you are an expert you will excell regardless of certification
>> .
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Tony Blanco <blancoj17_at_yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I do not get it...why I always see people on this forum that are
>> trying
>>>> to
>>>>> get
>>>>> their number and at the same time always complaining about other who
>>> have
>>>>> done
>>>>> it....folks at the end of the day the bottom line is get the
>> experience
>>>> and
>>>>> get the number...many people here talk about cheating and I have not
>>> idea
>>>>> how
>>>>> is done...because believe me when the day for the lab arrive you will
>>>> have
>>>>> a
>>>>> animal in front of you and your biggest enemy will be time and the
>>>>> pressure of
>>>>> the test....alls ccie that I have know are very smart people, down to
>>>> earth
>>>>> and the most important is they have the discipline to learn anything
>>> new
>>>>> and
>>>>> the discipline to troubleshoot and make a contribution to a design
>> of a
>>>> new
>>>>> network properly...I happen to know a few people who have a PHD on
>>> their
>>>>> credentials, and all are very smart people but I am sure that some
>>>>> are smarter that the other but what you are going say that they cheat
>>> on
>>>>> the
>>>>> PHD :) Gime a break......lets spent more
>>>>> time studying like I am doing for my next track security (when I
>>> though
>>>> I
>>>>> new
>>>>> everything now I have go back to the drawing board) and not
>> complaining
>>>>> about
>>>>> others....
>>>>> 
>>>>> My two long cents....
>>>>> 
>>>>> Juan Blanco
>>>>> CCIE# 25056 (R&S)
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>>>>> To: James Poplawski <jb.poplawski_at_gmail.com>
>>>>> Cc: Duncan Maccubbin
>>>>> <duncan.maccubbin_at_earthlink.net>; "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com"
>>>>> <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 11:27 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re:
>>>>> Three CCIE certifications in 7 months!!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> James.........Totally agreed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On
>>>>> Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 7:38 AM, James Poplawski <jb.poplawski_at_gmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> True colors always shine through. People that cheat will eventually
>> be
>>>>>> 
>>>>> discovered. You can't hide the fact that you have limited hands on
>>>>>> 
>>>>> knowledge.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As for the gentleman from China, you don't know his journey.
>>>>> "Don't
>>>>>> compare your dress rehearsals to someone else's live performance."
>>>>>> 
>>>>> SP/R+S are close to the same. Voice is Different sure but people have
>>>>>> done
>>>>> it, and if you study 24/7 and am dedicated anything is possible.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Happy
>>>>> studying!
>>>>>> JB
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 2, 2012, at 4:48 AM, Duncan
>>>>> Maccubbin
>>>>>> <duncan.maccubbin_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "I did search the
>>>>> name in Google."
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You may want to try Baidu. How did you spell his name
>>>>> in Chinese? Those
>>>>>> characters can be confusing. He may be active on Chinese
>>>>> websites.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: "Calin C."
>>>>> <calin_at_nsec.co>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Mar 2, 2012 3:18 AM
>>>>>>>> To: Marc La Porte
>>>>> <marc.a.laporte_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re:
>>>>> Three CCIE certifications in 7 months!!!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This is exactly why I have
>>>>> doubts to continue in CCIE pursuing. I mean I
>>>>>>>> have no doubt that there
>>>>> are smart (genius) people out there, but
>>>>>> still...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I did search the
>>>>> name in Google. Many results, but nothing that point me
>>>>>>>> to this person.
>>>>> Next I did search for Marko Milivojevic also multiple
>>>>>>>> CCIE and I got
>>>>> plenty of results (books, discussion, training, forums
>>>>>>>> and so on...).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> See my point? Marko (I chose him as he was the first name in my
>>>> mind)
>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> multiple CCIE, achieved during a longer period of time who has a
>>>>> proven
>>>>>>>> tech background. Even without face-2-face discussion with Marko
>>>>> you can
>>>>>>>> recognize his technical value. Now Mr. Han does not appear in
>> any
>>>>> of my
>>>>>>>> search and over night he is multiple CCIE.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If he got this
>>>>> certification base on his skills and somehow arrive at
>>>>>>>> this discussion,
>>>>> than I'm glad to hear him sharing some of his
>>>>>>>> knowledge. Maybe we can
>>>>> learn something.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Calin
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 03/02/2012 09:25
>>>>> AM, Marc La Porte wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Name Certification Type Certification Number
>>>>> Track Certification
>>>>>>>>> Status Certification
>>>>>>>>> Date HONGWEI HAN CCIE
>>>>> 20353 Routing and Switching Re-certified
>>>>>>>>> 25-Mar-2008 HONGWEI
>>>>>>>>> HAN
>>>>> CCIE 20353 Voice Re-certified 17-Mar-2011 HONGWEI HAN CCIE 20353
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> Security Re-certified 09-Aug-2011 HONGWEI HAN CCIE 20353 Service
>>>>>> Provider
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Re-certified 31-Oct-2011
>>>>>>>>> 
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