Re: PhD vs CCIE

Scott, they now have something ways better that Rus Standard Platinum
back in Russia, not for export unfortunately :-)

On 3/7/2012 3:13 PM, Scott Morris wrote:
> Damn straight! Though I've found that Russian Standard - Platinum is
> actually even smoother than Kettle One! ;) make sure it's pale (e.g.
> higher vodka ratio!)
>
> On 3/6/12 5:42 PM, Ronnie Angello wrote:
>
> LMAO! Consider it done next time I see you... What was it??? Ketel
> One Screwdriver?
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Scott Morris<swm_at_emanon.com> wrote:
>
> Neither Bill nor I would be wanting coffee... Something
> significantly
> stronger would be MUCH more appreciated! ;)
>
> On 3/6/12 3:23 PM, Ronnie Angello wrote:
> > As a matter of fact I have... I think we're connected on
> LinkedIn, and I
> > keep all of my info up to date there. It's basically a living,
> breathing
> > resume. I'm pretty open about everything...
> >
> > Ronald Angello - CCIE 17846
> >
> > Early in my career (starting at age 16), I worked at a national
> accelerator
> > facility where I was exposed to people of many different
> nationalities and
> > cultures. I worked there for 12 years supporting the various
> accelerator
> > electronics systems, control system, and controls / data
> acquisition /
> > scientific computing / high performance computing networks that
> make the
> > electron beam reach its target for all of the physicists from
> all over the
> > world to research the nucleus of the atom. I started there
> terminating
> > fiber and UTP, then configuring routers, switches, and
> single-board I/O
> > controllers. We looked like rock stars when we replaced those
> damned Fore
> > PowerHubs that crashed daily! I worked as Network
> Administrator for the
> > entire site before I left there in 2006. I recall attending a
> Joint Techs
> > conference where I met Dr. Scott Shenker... pretty cool to see
> what he's up
> > to these days!
> >
> > More recently I worked as a Sr. Global Net Eng / Network
> Architect for a
> > Fortune 100 headquartered in the UK, consisting of 20+
> operating companies
> > in 20+ countries. I designed and implemented a global network
> - global WAN
> > and data centres. Yes - I had the pleasure of working with BT
> and Orange
> > /sigh (no offense to any of you that work for either telco). I
> lead a
> > "Global Network Services Council" that had the unfortunate task
> of
> > developing global standards for networking.
> >
> > The challenge for me wasn't sitting on conference calls all day
> with folks
> > across the pond in UK, FR, DK, etc., but there was a technical
> barrier
> > between myself and my counterparts. No one over there even had
> as much as
> > a CCNA. I grew tired of all of the politics and
> micromanagement, and quite
> > honestly, I became more interested in flipping my salary.
> >
> > The last straw for me was not all of the op co's undermining
> the standards
> > that we worked so hard to develop and get approved... not
> management
> > ruining my chance to go work for Cisco... not me paying $2k a
> pop out of
> > pocket twice to go to Chicago to take the CCDE practical
> exam... but my
> > manager making me take vacation each time for those 3 days.
> Vacation is
> > hard to come by over here! Leaving was the best move I ever
> made, and I
> > could NEVER go back to a typical 8-5.
> >
> > See, I still can't think of anything about sitting in a
> classroom or
> > virtual classroom that could replace any of that. BTW - if
> anyone ever
> > asked me to fetch them coffee or cake, they would have a
> serious problem
> > on their hands... unless it was Scott Morris or Dr. Bill
> Parkhurst! :)
> >
> > Ronnie
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Bill6521<bil6521_at_netscape.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Guys,
> >>
> >> Just had a thought and my apologies about this if am I wrong
> but have many
> >> of
> >> you guys really had international experience by that I mean
> not just the
> >> odd
> >> business trips to Rio, Paris, London or Rome to do a bit of
> install ,
> >> configuration etc but a real international project - say of 18
> months
> >> duration
> >> etc. I mean I was talking to my USA colleagues on a project
> here and the
> >> differences between how CCIEs operate and are regarded in the
> USA and in
> >> Europe for example are staggering. The differences are not
> just via
> >> language
> >> but also cultural - as I am sure we are seeing now. By the way
> true
> >> international experience is regarded as a big plus by most
> companies.
> >>
> >>
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