Re: bgp local preference

You mean to tell me that i was wrong all these years? shooooot man, i
thought it was a kids game. hahahahahaha

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Imran Ali <immrccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> is ccie kid play ? dont get me wriong ....just my openion....a fact that
> is so wide spread.....on GS ...on forums....on cisco website...most of
> ccie vendor book...when you 'book' ccie lab exam...when you sit to write
> qualifier exam...when you attend online sessions with marko or
> brain....when you post on CLN...when you meet the proctor in lab....when u
> attempt ccna ccnp...
>
> to attempt the lab ...pass the qualifier..,,, with out knowing NDA means
> .....is surprising...
>
> this happens when some one (not this guy) ...breeth/lives/studies with
> D**s....
>
> his mind will never accept the fact that you can pass without cheeting
> too...becoz he is born and brought up with d**s....
>
>
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> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> To all,
>>
>> I honestly believe that before the start of the lab, the proctor should *
>> verbally* talk about the exam and NDA to all candidates, and get them to
>>
>> sign a paper that states that they totally understood the NDA, that way
>> there won't be any doubts or misunderstanding.
>>
>> Remember, the test is also conducted in NON-English speaking countries and
>> to read and fully understand some of these NDA stuff you need to have a
>> law
>> degree. I think i will recommend this to Cisco.
>>
>> Besides the language, the candidates are intimidated, excited and nervous
>> to begin with and sometimes we do not read the instructions.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Joe Astorino <joeastorino1982_at_gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Natin,
>> >
>> > If you truly did not understand that there is an NDA covering the
>> > questions you encounter on the CCIE lab exam, then I offer my 100%
>> > apology for what I said about you on list. I was angry and assumed
>> > you were just cheating. I probably jumped the gun on that statement,
>> > so I apologize. You do need to be aware of these things though
>> > because you can get in a lot of trouble with Cisco for violating an
>> > NDA even if you don't has knowledge of it existing. It is like
>> > getting pulled over for speeding when you "didn't see the sign". It
>> > doesn't matter, they are going to nail you anyways.
>> >
>> > Best of luck with your studies
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:49 PM, nitin shettigar <nitinbizzy_at_gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > > I want to tell all that i did not know that the question asked by me
>> was
>> > > inappropriate. If i had known this, i wouldn't have posted the
>> question
>> > on
>> > > Tshoot exam. I am sorry for that.
>> > >
>> > > i asked just to clarify my doubt, i did not find myself cheating for
>> this
>> > > question as i did not clear the exam...
>> > >
>> > > Any ways sorry again for offending..
>> > > won't post such question again...
>> > > hope my apology is accepted..
>> > >
>> > > thank u all for your help and making me know the about the NDA
>> policy..
>> > >
>> > > nitin
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Paul Negron <negron.paul_at_gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Joe,
>> > >>
>> > >> Your credibility should not be at stake. You have helped plenty of
>> > people
>> > >> on
>> > >> this forum with your knowledge. I was not attacking, I was defending.
>> > >>
>> > >> I'm sure you did not mean that a person was a piece of garbage.
>> Based on
>> > >> your response, I think you wanted to say that the act of cheating is
>> > >> garbage...right?
>> > >>
>> > >> Next time I will unicast my feelings and hold the Group Post for
>> facts.
>> > >>
>> > >> Apologies to EVERYONE!!!
>> > >>
>> > >> Paul
>> > >> --
>> > >> Paul Negron
>> > >> CCIE# 14856 CCSI# 22752
>> > >> Senior Technical Instructor
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> > From: Joe Astorino <joeastorino1982_at_gmail.com>
>> > >> > Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 23:23:13 -0400
>> > >> > To: Paul Negron <negron.paul_at_gmail.com>, nitin shettigar
>> > >> > <nitinbizzy_at_gmail.com>, Carlos Mendioroz <tron_at_huapi.ba.ar>, Brian
>> > >> > Dennis
>> > >> > <bdennis_at_ine.com>, <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> > >> > Subject: Re: bgp local preference
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Is this a joke? Everybody is thinking the same thing, I'm just
>> saying
>> > >> > it. You know what sets me off? Cheaters. Not sure why you are so
>> upset
>> > >> > and why you feel the need to personally attack me for sharing my
>> > >> > opinion. It is pretty unbelievable that you can find time for this
>> but
>> > >> > not to say anything at all about a clear NDA violation on the list.
>> > >> > Yeah, let's all just let that go and be nice. Guess what? I don't
>> work
>> > >> > for a training vendor here and I am not forced to be nice.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Also, yeah I did not see the solution at first (and with all due
>> > >> > respect not all the facts were given). It happens and I admit when
>> I
>> > >> > am wrong or missed something. What does that have to do with
>> calling
>> > >> > this guy out for cheating? Oh wait, NOTHING. You are calling me
>> out on
>> > >> > list because you don't like my opinion...how is this at all
>> different
>> > >> > than what you are whining about?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > You are welcome to disagree with my opinion and comments and I
>> > >> > respect your right to do whatever you want to do, but please don't
>> sit
>> > >> > here and attack my credibility because you are upset.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On 3/13/12, Paul Negron <negron.paul_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >> This coming from the guy who said.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> " Local preference is an attribute local to an AS so doing this
>> > without
>> > >> >> touching AS 200 would be IMPOSSIBLE."
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> YUP. Real Class Act.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Unicast it next time !! Tough Guy!!!
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Sorry Marko, Brian....that comment set me off. I'll unicast it
>> next
>> > >> >> time!
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Paul
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> --
>> > >> >> Paul Negron
>> > >> >> CCIE# 14856 CCSI# 22752
>> > >> >> Senior Technical Instructor
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>> From: Joe Astorino <joeastorino1982_at_gmail.com>
>> > >> >>> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:12:23 -0400
>> > >> >>> To: nitin shettigar <nitinbizzy_at_gmail.com>, Carlos Mendioroz
>> > >> >>> <tron_at_huapi.ba.ar>, Paul Negron <negron.paul_at_gmail.com>, Brian
>> > Dennis
>> > >> >>> <bdennis_at_ine.com>, <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> > >> >>> Subject: Re: bgp local preference
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> Hi Nittin,
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> You are a real piece of garbage. Here is a concept - study and
>> learn
>> > >> >>> instead of cheating. What an epiphany!
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> On 3/13/12, nitin shettigar <nitinbizzy_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >>>> I had this issue in the CCIE tshoot exam.
>> > >> >>>> So will the above solution valid for tshoot??
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> Thank you Markov and Denis for your efforts..
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> - Nitin
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:52 PM, Carlos Mendioroz <
>> > tron_at_huapi.ba.ar>
>> > >> >>>> wrote:
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>>> Why. not?
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>> --
>> > >> >>>>> Carlos Mendioroz <tron_at_acm.org>
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>> -----Original message-----
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>> *From: *nitin shettigar <nitinbizzy_at_gmail.com>*
>> > >> >>>>> To: *Carlos G Mendioroz <tron_at_huapi.ba.ar>*
>> > >> >>>>> Cc: *Paul Negron <negron.paul_at_gmail.com>, Brian Dennis
>> > >> >>>>> <bdennis_at_ine.com>,
>> > >> >>>>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com*
>> > >> >>>>> Sent: *Tue, 13 Mar 2012, 15:48:03 GMT+00:00
>> > >> >>>>> *
>> > >> >>>>> Subject: *Re: bgp local preference
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>> Is the solution provided applicable in CCIE exam??
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>> - Nitin
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Carlos G Mendioroz
>> > >> >>>>> <tron_at_huapi.ba.ar>wrote:
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>> but the other is ? :)
>> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>> Actually, both have to be configured for confederation, right
>> ?
>> > >> >>>>>> Also, it might be the case that AS100 has a route-map with
>> some
>> > >> >>>>>> logic that sets LP based on preset communities, so you just
>> have
>> > to
>> > >> >>>>>> figure out which is the community you have to set, and enable
>> it.
>> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>> -Carlos
>> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>> Paul Negron @ 13/03/2012 03:14 -0300 dixit:
>> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>> That's the only way I could think of this. But you would
>> have to
>> > >> >>>>>> assume
>> > >> >>>>>>> the
>> > >> >>>>>>> other router was configured as a confederation already.
>> > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>> He did not state that but I was not sure if it was a
>> challenge
>> > or
>> > >> >>>>>>> if
>> > >> >>>>>>> he
>> > >> >>>>>>> really wanted to know how.
>> > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>> Kind of like the riddle..... you have to make 2 coins that
>> equal
>> > >> >>>>>>> 30
>> > >> >>>>>>> cents.
>> > >> >>>>>>> One of them is not a Quarter.
>> > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>> Paul
>> > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>> --
>> > >> >>>>>> Carlos G Mendioroz <tron_at_huapi.ba.ar> LW7 EQI Argentina
>> > >> >>>>>>
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