Comparing a CCIE to a theme park employee? That statement, in itself, just
devalued the cert more than any NDA violation I have seen on this forum.
Regards,
Marc
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Joseph L. Brunner
<joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>wrote:
> If OER wasn't on your lab attempt why even mention it?
>
> Forget how much money I spent on my CCIE, I would care less how you get
> your number or not - think about the people at Cisco that work hard to
> bring you the test...
>
> Kind of like the characters at Disney World that get up at 5 am for
> rehearsals and wait around until the park opens each day, so 1000's of
> happy kids can rush into see them! Or Astronauts that spend 10 to 20 years
> in the military to earn the CHANCE to even APPLY for the space program...
> someone did something you didn't do so you could just watch... that's this
> test...
>
> If you're really worthy of the test you'll respect it and just pass it -
> who needs to know what you got tested on the day you failed or pass?
>
> Also, whether you respect it or not that your business - but be warned
> there is an NDA and who knows what could happen if Cisco employees are on
> this forum looking for specific examples of NDA violations.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Leigh Finch
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 8:38 PM
> To: Jazz Sunn
> Cc: Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: Studying for my fourth attempt
>
> Hi Jazz,
> Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't mean to suggest that OER was in my
> last two attempts (I should have worded that better). I meant to use OER as
> a placeholder for a complex topic that I need to work on (and has been a
> popular topic on this forum of late).
>
> leigh
>
> On 21/06/12 10:33 AM, Jazz Sunn wrote:
> > Leigh, lots of people react before thinking. Joesph's likely invested
> > a large amount of time, engery and money for his number, and as a
> > result I'm sure the first hint he or anyone else in his position gets
> > that someone's attempting to devalue their credential, they lash out.
> > I'm assuming this was triggered by you stating OER was a topic for
> > your last two attempts. However, it's clearly documented at 2.8 of the
> > R&S blueprint that OER is a topic you are expected to master for the
> > exam. I'm not sure you would have received the same had you said BGP
> > gave you a hard time.
> > I have a blog, lots of my friends do, lots of people on this list do.
> > Writing about topics in an educational delivery model, blog or wiki,
> > helps reinforce your understanding of it. I for one encourage you do
> > to so, and look forward to reading some of your efforts.
> > Good luck!
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Leigh Finch <leigh_at_leighfinch.net
> > <mailto:leigh_at_leighfinch.net>> wrote:
> >
> >     At no point have I stated what was in my labs. My wiki is not
> >     designed to be a dump site. I have not written about what was in
> >     my labs. I'm covering broad topics with areas I need to work on.
> >
> >     I won't post about it again.
> >
> >     Thanks, leigh
> >
> >
> >     On 21/06/12 9:42 AM, Joseph L. Brunner wrote:
> >
> >         This should read - "After getting walked out by the Proctors
> >         or denied my lab booking for BREAKING THE NDA by divulging
> >         what I faced on my previous attempts".
> >
> >         Please let's be professional and not turn this into a dump
> >         board - you don't need to tell anyone (except your priest,
> >         rabbi, imam, wife or attorney) what was on your CCIE lab exam.
> >
> >         Thanks,
> >
> >         Joe
> >         #19366
> >
> >
> >         -----Original Message-----
> >         From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com <mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com>
> >         [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com <mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com>]
> >         On Behalf Of Leigh Finch
> >         Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 7:03 PM
> >         To: Cisco certification
> >         Subject: Studying for my fourth attempt
> >
> >         Hi Everyone,
> >         I'm starting to ramp up for my fourth attempt. After getting
> >         destroyed by topics such as OER on my last 2 attempts. I've
> >         decided to start writing wiki articles for each topic of the
> >         blueprint to ensure, I know something about every topic.
> >
> >         I won't be writing everything about a topic, but I'll try my
> >         best to be correct. Hopefully, if I'm confident enough to
> >         publish something, I know it well enough and I'm not cheating
> >         myself.
> >
> >         The first article I've written about is NTP. The rest of the
> >         wiki is just a skeleton at the moment.
> >
> >
> > http://leighfinch.net/cisco_wiki/index.php/Network_Time_Protocol
> >
> >         If you see something wrong please unicast me.
> >
> >         Cheers, leigh
> >
> >
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