Re: cam timer tuning

From: Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 01:44:11 -0800

As I said - niche market :-). Nothing wrong with that :-)

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On Dec 28, 2012, at 21:56, "Joseph L. Brunner" <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com> wrote:
> Well,
> 
> They have the 7500 series for you catalyst 6509 and Nexus converts...
> 
> Nexus is a high latency (in my world sorry), high power, high cost switch...
> 
> We have all seen the networkworld.com calculation of just the power savings by choosing Arista... Are the F2 and M2 line cards closer or better than Arista? Debateable... but I am of the school most networks are WAY over engineered and way UNDER managed on a day to day basis.
> 
> In my experience and in depth weekends trying everything google can think of - Brocade is actually the 10gb iscsi or raw throughput switch of choice.
> 
> My whole 2c was there are WAY better options out there before we discuss the whole 3750x vs 4948E debate again :)
> 
> Check this link - number 10,001 or so from the master Dr. Welcher - 
> 
> http://www.netcraftsmen.net/component/content/article/69-data-center/1275.html
> 
> 
> Nexus F1 and M1 were a joke and not serious. When I was subcontracting they actually got my general contractor fired for oversubscribing the switch and not knowing the shared and dedicated 10gb ports rule :( the F2/M2 cards are a lot more competitive with Arista and Juniper's raw performance. Will Cisco have a few weird features some Satcomm backbone needs to segregate control frames? Perhaps... but THAT possibility is the niche - not the rule.
> 
> thanks
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marko Milivojevic [mailto:markom_at_ipexpert.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 12:45 AM
> To: Joseph L. Brunner
> Cc: me you; Carlos G Mendioroz; Naufal Jamal; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: cam timer tuning
> 
> While I love Arista, theirs is a very niche market... Even they say so themselves :-)
> 
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> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) Senior CCIE Instructor - IPexpert
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> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Joseph L. Brunner <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com> wrote:
>> Dude do yourself a favor and switch to Arista.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Itbs a great product with great people behind it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I would say without breaking any NDAbs 60% of all US Equities, Futures 
>> and options trade on Arista driven networks. 20% of the rest of the 
>> volume moves over Juniper EX series. Cisco, Extreme, BNT and all the 
>> others have the crumbs.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Arista is used in many sophisticated networks and its rock solid.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Joe
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>> From: me you [mailto:anunda19_at_gmail.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 12:29 AM
>> To: Carlos G Mendioroz
>> Cc: Marko Milivojevic; Joseph L. Brunner; Naufal Jamal; 
>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
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>> 
>> Subject: Re: cam timer tuning
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All I know is the 4948's suck. Give me a 3750 any day, I have been 
>> told that the 4948's are better becasue they do IPv6 software instead 
>> of in hardward like 3750. But I don't know for sure I would love to 
>> see someone with some documentation on that.  but I see all kinds of 
>> problems with the 4948's. if you change a intergrated motherboard with 
>> NIC on an end device you have to clear ARP, but not with a 3750. Heard 
>> the 4948E are better, but from the text that was provided it looked 
>> like a 4948E because the "media" command was not provided for for the 
>> G1/49. In Fact the whole topology looks like the same B/S being pushed 
>> by my company. if it is you know me
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rob
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>> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Carlos G Mendioroz <tron_at_huapi.ba.ar>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hmm, go back to the first (rather cryptic) message:
>> 
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>> 
>> whenever we bring up a new
>> trunk link between Nexus 7K and 4948 we see unicast flooding caused 
>> due to TCN's.
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>> So in this particular case, we (well, he) knows that a TC has 
>> happened, and that it causes the flooding...
>> 
>> -Carlos
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>> Marko Milivojevic @ 28/12/2012 19:48 -0300 dixit:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> TC and event correlation are not cause and effect. The issue is that a 
>> host went down and someone was still transmitting to it. And can do so 
>> for 4 more hours :-)
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>> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Carlos G Mendioroz <tron_at_huapi.ba.ar>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That won't cut this, because the event happens *when there is a TC*.
>> No way you will get ARP down to 15 seconds or so.
>> Nah, identify your silent destinations and ping them from the DG :)
>> 
>> -Carlos
>> 
>> Marko Milivojevic @ 28/12/2012 15:38 -0300 dixit:
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>> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Joseph L. Brunner 
>> <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com> wrote:
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>> 
>> You should unify all timers at 600 seconds.
>> 
>> That number is usually good to me.
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>> 
>> 
>> It's hard to change ARp timers in the entire domain. I was thinking 
>> more along the lines of dramatically increasing the aging timers in 
>> CAM tables to match the ARP :-)
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