Re: CCDE Bootcamps

You can belittle all you wish- I don't think you want me calling the entire situation out here.

Regards,
Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (RS)
Sent from my iPhone 5

On Jan 6, 2013, at 6:55 PM, "Brad Ellis" <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com> wrote:

> Jay,
>
> Personal attacks in a public forum are simply uncalled for and
> unprofessional. You were unhappy you didn't receive a beta-test
> workbook that we said we would provide, but you didn't receive. Yet
> after not receiving it, you said you sent an email which you didn't
> receive a response to...our phone # is clearly listed on our website.
> If you were really interested in receiving a copy of the workbook, you
> would have called...but you never did.
>
> We've been in business since 1998. We try our best to make our
> customers happy which is why we wanted to give you a complimentary beta
> copy of a workbook...sorry we didn't come through with that.
>
> Ttyl
> Brad
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jay McMickle [mailto:jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com]
> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 4:51 PM
> To: Brad Ellis
> Cc: Ronnie Angello; Samarth Chidanand; Group Study CCIE
> Subject: Re: CCDE Bootcamps
>
> "if the shoe fits...." comes to mind, Brad.
>
> Had you rectified the situation, not dealt ill with two instructors
> and a friend (Steve DiBias) that did CCNP recordings for you, and had a
> reputable product, we wouldn't be discussing this subject.
>
> Oh, and your call to my cell phone just now shows that you get my emails
> that would have kept you honest to correct my issue if you were worried
> about it (as well as having my cell phone number to call me to make sure
> I was taken care of).
>
> Oh, and you can't sue someone for stating their opinion of your company
> on an open and free forum! I don't appreciate your call tonight or the
> unprofessional language your chose to speak to me in. Cursing at me will
> get you nowhere.
>
> Thank you for proving my point. End of story.
>
> Regards,
> Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (RS)
> Sent from my iPhone 5
>
> On Jan 6, 2013, at 6:33 PM, "Brad Ellis" <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
>
>> Jay,
>>
>> Thanks for the slander! Calling myself and my company cheap and
>> corrupt is absurd.
>>
>> Samarth - if you have any questions about our program, please feel
>> free to contact me and I'll be happy to provide you with any
>> information you desire.
>>
>> As of now, we have four people we have helped get their CCDE:
> http://www.ccbootcamp.com/about-ccbootcamp/CCBOOTCAMP-ccde-hall-of-fame.
>> html
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Brad
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>> Of Jay McMickle
>> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 3:10 PM
>> To: Ronnie Angello
>> Cc: Samarth Chidanand; Group Study CCIE
>> Subject: Re: CCDE Bootcamps
>>
>> *NOTE*
>> CCBootcamp is absolute crap. I won't waste your time here, but all of
>> there books last year were filled with typos, incorrect solutions, and
>
>> not a good learning tool. I wasted my money, time, and effort on their
>
>> bootcamp and workbooks for R&S. Maybe they have improved, but when the
>
>> company is corrupt and cheap at its root (Brad Ellis), I don't expect
>> any improvement, regardless of the track. There are a few instructors
>> and people that have worked for them that I have spoken to, and each
>> will agree with my statements above.
>>
>> Stick with the three best players-
>> IPExpert, INE, and Micronics (Narbik). I've used all three for R&S
>> and doing the same for CCIE Security now.
>>
>> I hope this helps. Happy Labbing!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (RS)
>> Sent from my iPhone 5
>>
>> On Jan 6, 2013, at 12:32 PM, Ronnie Angello <ronnie.angello_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Note that I didn't actually work through Jeremy's scenarios either,
>> but I recommend them because I know Jeremy, and he's a certified CCDE.
>>>
>>> To be fair I just did a quick search and looks like CCBootcamp offers
>> a CCDE practical bootcamp, but I don't know anything about the
>> instructor(s), content, cost, etc. I stand firmly behind my previous
>> comments...
>>>
>>> Ronnie
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 6, 2013, at 1:26 PM, Ronnie Angello <ronnie.angello_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Samarth,
>>>>
>>>> I don't think that any of the vendors that are active here offer a
>> CCDE bootcamp, but I could be wrong. If so, they may want to cover
>> their eyes.
>>>>
>>>> I would just recommend working through Jeremy Filliben's practice
>> scenarios. Other than working through these types of scenarios, I
>> don't see how a bootcamp can prepare you for that exam.
>>>>
>>>> I attempted the practical a total of 4 times. Entire process cost
>>>> me
>> like $5-6K total out of pocket. One bootcamp will probably set you
>> back that much. My personal opinion is that it's not worth it.
>>>>
>>>> My 2 cents...
>>>>
>>>> Ronnie
>>>> 2012::1
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 6, 2013, at 12:39 AM, Samarth Chidanand
>> <samarth_04_at_hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello List members,
>>>>> Can anyone share info about CCDE bootcamps. Who conducts them and
>>>>> how the success rate is. I am interested to attend one. Many thanks
>> in advance.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Wishes.
>>>>> SAMARTH
>>>>> CCIE #18535 (R&S , Security)CCSI #34585
>>>>>
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