Thanks, Steve.
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On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:04 PM, "Barnes, Steve" <steve.barnes_at_IMPSolutions.com> wrote:
> Simply not true. How do I know? I was the product Manager for the CCDE and CCAr at the time. The first two CCAr's did not help create the exam and in fact took the board exam. I was also on the board that graded them.
> 
> I hope that straightens that out.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Steve
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of JV
> Sent: February-11-13 5:28 PM
> To: Marko Milivojevic
> Cc: Mohamed A. Monsef Abbas; Mohammed Naviwala; Travis Niedens; Mark Stephanus Chandra; GS CCIE
> Subject: Re: CCIE Data Center
> 
> Marko Dear,
> 
> Let me refresh your memory 
> 
> The first 2 CCA passed do u know who we're they ?
> 
> Cisco employees and prepared the CCA course.
> 
> Once they got that certification they ditched cisco one sitting in HP and 2nd is out of cisco as well
> 
> And just to change the taste cisco is that bitch which can't make any this special than just buy it and put cisco tag on it 
> 
> MERAKI is the latest example 
> 
> Some time feel like burn all  4 CCIEs
> Plaque including 10 years old member too in front of San France Cisco with media 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 12/02/2013, at 4:39 AM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com> wrote:
> 
>> Correct and from what I heard, he was involved with the exam creation 
>> itself, hence my comment about being grandfathered in. That said, I 
>> actually think he took the test, but he was involved with the creative 
>> process.
>> 
>> The second CCIE DC whom I know personally and was a great inspiration 
>> for my own becoming a CCIE (this is his 5th) passed last week on his 
>> 2nd attempt (and interestingly, he was the very first person to take 
>> the tast on day 1).
>> 
>> In his case, I can guarantee it wasn't just because he had a free 
>> attempt. That guy knows his stiff.
>> 
>> Until he comes out on his own, I won't disclose his name. He's from a 
>> Scandinavian country :-).
>> 
>> --
>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) Senior CCIE Instructor / 
>> Managing Partner - IPexpert
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Mohamed A. Monsef Abbas 
>> <m.abdelmonsef_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Robert Burns from Canada Cisco Employee
>>> 
>>> ca.linkedin.com/pub/robert-burns/10/755/bb
>>> 
>>> ;)
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 8:40 AM, JV <jummavision_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> It's all bullshit. What cisco employee do is just take part 
>>>> preparing course and exam and the sit in exam which they prepared it 
>>>> with free attempted ( as cisco employee got 3 free any exam 
>>>> attempts)
>>>> 
>>>> And the tell all the world they are genius.... Shit as
>>>> 
>>>> I asked one scenario with such kind of grandfather and he f***ing 
>>>> worse the Ccnp level
>>>> 
>>>> Just making money from every side and claiming as leader
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Save my this email for future reference
>>>> 
>>>> When all cisco claim as leader will f***up
>>>> 
>>>> Charlie
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On 11/02/2013, at 4:33 PM, Mohammed Naviwala <monavy_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> one of them is Robert Burns. second I dont know.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Travis Niedens
>>>>> <niedentj_at_hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Who was grandfathered in ? Silvano gai ?? Who else could be 
>>>>>> considered the father of nxos and MDS ?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> T
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 10, 2013, at 8:54 AM, "Marko Milivojevic" 
>>>>>> <markom_at_ipexpert.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have heard from two people who have passed. One of them was 
>>>>>>> sort of grandfathered in and the 2nd one passed couple of days 
>>>>>>> ago. Both are Cisco employees.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) Senior CCIE Instructor / 
>>>>>>> Managing Partner - IPexpert
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:22 AM, Mark Stephanus Chandra 
>>>>>>> <mark.chandra_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Just wondering has anyone attempted CCIE data Center before ?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I want to know how you prepare for this ?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Any Bootcamp to CCIE DC ? Any lab rentals ? I used to rental INE 
>>>>>>>> Racks
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> CCIE RS Preparation :)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks Guys
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>> 
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