Re: Locklizard

That's not really a good comparison. It's more like the Audi
requires you to enter a pin code to start the engine and it must be
verified online so you need radio coverage to be able to start your car.

I don't know if Locklizard can do cached logins or anything but I had
a pretty bad experience with it when I bought some Cisco 360 labs.

I
think because Narbik is a great guy and a great teacher people still buy
his stuff but he probably loses a bit of business due to it as well.

The way I see it making money on the workbooks is kind of like selling
CDs. You should make money on it but the real money is in the touring
(bootcamps).

I'm just glad we have the opportunity to choose between
different vendors and from what I've seen most of them are very good
which can't be said for many industries.

/Daniel

2013-04-11 16:36
Tim Cribbs Jr. wrote:

> Its amazing how so many people poke jabs at
how someone chooses to model
> their business. If you don't like it,
don't buy it. Frankly it is none of
> your business. If you are that
adamant about someone protecting their
> stuff, go out - start a
business of your own - and deliver your product how
> you wish - and
make your statement about how intellectual property sucks.
> THEN say
what you want (which INE has every right to). Are you affected
> by how
he chooses to model? No. Unless you really want to buy his
> material
but choose not to because of the delivery method. That's like
> saying
I'm going to buy an Audi over BMW because there was a closer parking
>
spot to the showroom at Audi than BMW - I'd have to walk 50 extra feet
at
> BMW. NOT because Audi has engineering preferences over BMW. I don't
know,
> but I'd probably have a deeper look into the curriculum and
teaching
> methods to make a choice - not which application I need to
read it.
>
> Bottom line, they each have their models and it works for
both of them. My
> main question is - what are you trying to achieve by
poking jabs at
> someone's business plan? Where is your business plan?
>

> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 9:58 AM, marc edwards <renorider_at_gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>> Personally, I dis-like locklizard. Knowing that is the
delivery mechanism dissuades me from using a product. Piracy is
un-fortunate but copy right laws are ridiculous because they aren't
internationally enforced. While it helps protect "Assets" in US, it does
nothing to disparage what happens in Asia (btw not just China!) and that
puts the American consumer at a dis advantage to the rest of the world.
That is why I see it as BS from a consumer standpoint. I commend anyone
who can come up with a model that attracts and retains customer base
w/open sales tactic. Keep material fresh and it is always worth getting
the latest updates despite what is available in the kazbahh. Also, the
bootlegged stuff is used to create warm leads and increase future sales.
What I noticed about such retorts. They typically come after the
shameless plug which I believe is against 'policy' for using the list to
promote or advertise. We have a few in the middle here and hoping it
doesn't become another side war. Let's step in to diffuse instead of
creating a bench clearing! Can't we all just be friends? Regards, Marc
Edwards CCIE #38259 On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Jay McMickle
<jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com
>>
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> I love this banter! You
are arguing about the inconvenience of a vendor to protect their
investment? If the Brian's at INE are big-ballers and are okay with
their workbooks
>> on joke about this last time this came up in fact! I
mean this with respect to Narbik- he's a small busine
>>
>>> is
excellent. Narbik let's you attend his retake his bootcamps for free.
The B
>> have a different business model and it works well for them.
You're upset about the security restraints
>>
>>> t believe that they
offer free retakes on a regular basis, but might have a periodic
special-maybe). Hmm. I think I see the point here- you want the longer
term workbook for free. Final point- you may be upset because you can't
use you 1
>> /blockquote> read the workbooks while you lab. Consider a
second 24" $150 monitor, perhaps? Happy labbing- chee
>>
>>>
ref="mailto:david.rothera_at_gmail.com">david.rothera_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
e misunderstanding my stance on this. At no time do I condone piracy for
IE workbooks, I have paid for in full every single of training material
that I used. the PDF reader I must use. -- David Rothera CCIE #38338
David, let me know when you can photograph a wedding, I'd like to
commission you for
>>
>>> ... :)
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-JB On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:12 AM
>>
>>> e_at_shanekillian.net(mailto:
shane_at_shanekillian.net)> wrote:
>> 0%">My experience is this - I have
purchased products that use DRM (e.g. LockLizard) but for me its
remember that reputation and experiences are **everything**. I think
that "Vendor X" (without DRM) is well aware that material can be product
so good that you can't **not** buy it. This is an intelligent move. I
think at the end of the day, the people that were going to buy the
material will buy the material and the people that (he's like 97,
right?), help him pay his taxes, fix his teeth, keep new David Rothera
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 1:46 AM To: Narbik Kocharians Cc: CCIE
Groupstudy Subject: Re: Locklizard As per usual with DRM controlled
media the only people you are hurting are your customers and I hate to
say it Narbik but the fact that you use this crap is why I would never
consider your products. People will always find a way to pirate things
and at the end of the day as I have already said the only people that
get hurt by this are your real -- *Narbik Kocharians *CCSI#30832, CCIE#
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