From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Tue Sep 17 2002 - 22:49:29 GMT-3
And if we ran the mailing lists utilizing social darwinian theory as
well, we'd have many less posts (and posters) like this. (smirk)
Scott
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From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
rich
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 9:04 PM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: MS-CCIE
A couple of years ago, at the height of the dot com era, a CCIE in my
area could easily pull in 150k. Did I start down this road for the
money? Hell yes. I already had field experience, a good job,
seniority, respect, and all that stuff that makes work fun. Besides,
CCIE would be a challenge. But a LOT has changed in the past couple of
years. Bad economy. Fewer jobs. Lowered salaries. And apparently a
butt load of CCIE's! I mean wow! And to hear that many of them are
just lab ccie's really brings the 8000+ CCIE's into a different light.
It brings my own efforts into the same light. It reminds me of what
happened to Novell certifications... I had just gotten my CNE when I
heard the term 'paper CNE' about a guy at the same company who carried
cue cards around to customers with commands written on them.
I haven't gotten my ccie yet but I'm hoping to. My chances would
probably be greatly enhanced by going to a boot-camp, but I feel that
would just add to the problem. Maybe limiting the number of active
CCIE's in a country would keep the certification from getting too
bloated. Or maybe just stop the certification process now or at a fixed
number. Or better yet, allow no more than 1000 a year (total) to be
certified. Candidate selection process could be a weighted drawing
(increased chances every year).
I'm not trying to criticize anyone's efforts, but rather express the
results of those efforts. It's kind of liking moving into a new, quiet,
expensive neighborhood. It's great until everyone else moves in, and
suddenly that expensive house isn't worth what you paid for it.
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