From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Sat Jun 28 2008 - 22:59:54 ART
Did I miss something here? Are you for or against the recertifcation
policy?
Once you obtain a college degree, you have it. You can be a PhD and still
work the drive through at McDonalds. One would hope that with a CCIE that
wouldn't be the case, but I suppose it could as well.
The connotations for Doctorate of Philosophy are a touch different than
"certified professional" or "certified expert" status.
My CNE is expired. I think my MCSE just got obliterated, so it's expired
too. Do I feel bad about them? Nope. Evolution. If I ever find myself
working on an old Novell network or Microsoft one I don't feel like an
expert (nor do I want to!). So why should Cisco networking be different?
On the flip side, European history hasn't changed all that much from the
class I took in college. I'm pretty sure that there was a time that the
Romans rules most of the known world and now they don't. :)
If you value it, recertify it. If you are still working at 80, and it's
still in networking, I hope you will have updated your certification.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Cisco Mania
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 6:47 PM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Expiration Policy
I was wondering if Cisco will ever change its certification's expiration
policies?
What about having certifications for lifetime? Whatever comes new in books,
it doesn't mean that technologies goes away from market, they are still
here.
So for some reason you could not take whatever required exam for re
certification? so you have to repeat alllllllll the exams all over again?
and then price jump from $125 to $150 for professional exams. and CCIE being
change every other year or so. Whatever I am saying. The basic point is that
I feel strongly that exams like CCIE shouldn't get expired if for some
reason a person was not able to take current required exams. It's a lot of
hard work and money and training is involved in achieving these certs. and
unfortunately, jobs are not very optimistic these days. and not everybody is
using cisco products. Networking jobs require you to know a lot of other
stuff.
so if u did ccnp and it expired, u are suppose to start from scratch and
start from ccna. and if it expired again, u are suppose to continue from
scratch again.
Same with ccie.
Now look at your degrees or high school diploma. if they start doing it what
will u do? Expiration Policy. Be very honest. I don't think I will pass most
of the mid-terms of whatever courses I took in college. and Most of the
normal students won't be able to do it. But anyway, certs are different,
more practical? product oriented. I am sure that once a person has gone
through achieving ccnp or ccie certs, they know most of the stuff already.
so what's they point in making them start from point A. They should be
given some kind of options for having choice if they want to renew it or no.
up to them. It all depends where they are working (and if they are working)
and if there is need for them to know whatever is added in new books.
Enough for today.
yeah, my certs have been expired. and I took one exam again but it expired
too. It's just that I think this is the biggest drawback why ppl won't go
for certs again and again. Think about it. You are in 80's now. Your
grandchildren want to go to picnic and you are busy re certifying every
couple of years.
Anyway, it also hurts to lose something what you had achieved once. and then
you are not sure if it's all worth to go through them. Knowledge is
something you have already achieved.
etc.
etc.
etc.
so if u want to go through ccie, but then looking at your other expired cert
(and ccie written has expired too), you are not sure what to do.
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