Re: CCIE R and S ver 4

thats the right attitude man. and with that you will pass. worrying about
who passes and who fails is only going to distract you away from study :) I
wish you the best Gary..

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:58 AM, Gary Duncanson <
gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com> wrote:

> That would be me then and 10000 other people ;)
>
> I did some lab work today. Im not waiting for others to pass. If I felt my
> v4 topics were on song I would go next week. As it is it will be Easter, but
> I will still go no matter how few pass. It's something to do :)
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonny English" <
> redkidneybeans_at_gmail.com>
> To: "Johnny B CCIE" <jbccie_at_gmail.com>
> Cc: "CCIE Groupstudy" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 6:54 PM
>
> Subject: Re: CCIE R and S ver 4
>
>
> i bet there is some smart guy out that is studying for the exam right now
>> that will pass. the thing is, he is not wasting his time thinking about
>> how
>> hard the exam is or waiting for someone else to pass and give him hope. he
>> is probably infront of his PC configuring something, breaking things and
>> learning how to troubleshoot..
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Nadeem,
>>>
>>> You have a point. Each vendor should send their best man to the lab to
>>> prove that their product is adequate to help people study for and pass
>>> the new exam. If this no-pass continues they will either have to do
>>> this or start their going out of business sale.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > if some one gota balls he should re-appear instead of making huge >
>>> claims
>>> :)
>>> >
>>> > Who is going to attempt V4, having already numbers...
>>> > Some one show courage :)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Joe Astorino <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Guys if you think it is impossible and quit they have successfully
>>> weeded
>>> >> you out. Many have said they failed but it was passable if you know >>
>>> the
>>> bp.
>>> >> My 2 cents
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >>
>>> >> Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347 R&S
>>> >> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>>> >> Cell: +1.586.212.6107
>>> >> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
>>> >> Mailto: jastorino_at_ipexpert.com
>>> >>
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: jose manzano <josermanzano_at_gmail.com>
>>> >> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:32:17
>>> >> To: groupstudy<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>> >> Subject: Re: CCIE R and S ver 4
>>> >>
>>> >> There would be a study factor if it would be possible to pass the exam
>>> >> ,
>>> >> but
>>> >> I have yet to read of anyone passing the new v4 lab.
>>> >>
>>> >> Cisco will modify the v4 lab if in the end they have put together a
>>> lab
>>> >> exam with unrealistic & unachievable expectations.
>>> >>
>>> >> I for one though do not like the route it's going as it's starting
>>> >> to
>>> >> feel like all this time i've invested, and continue to invest >>
>>> preparing
>>> for
>>> >> this one exam is in vane as it's nearly impossible to achieve now.
>>> >>
>>> >> Then again we are only a few weeks into the new exam, so lets see how
>>> it
>>> >> plays out in the next few months i guess.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Atlanta CCIE <atlantaccie_at_gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > Cheaters don't care about that lol
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On 11/2/09, Jonny English <redkidneybeans_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > > what about study factor?
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >> luck factor or F**K factor is prime issue of V4.
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Jack <ccie.unnumbered_at_gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> > In consulting business, we keep asking the client what they >>
>>> > >> > want
>>> >> until
>>> >> > >> the
>>> >> > >> > case is clear before we give advice.
>>> >> > >> > Some people mentioned that some troubleshooting tickets are
>>> vague.
>>> >> I
>>> >> > >> doubt
>>> >> > >> > Howard at RTP is that helpful in explaining the tickets, based
>>> >> > >> > on
>>> my
>>> >> > two
>>> >> > >> > experience in V3. Last time when I was there, Howard left >> >
>>> >> > early.
>>> >> His
>>> >> > >> > replacement/substitute was younger and much more polite, >> >
>>> >> > humble,
>>> >> > modest,
>>> >> > >> and
>>> >> > >> > most of all, helpful. Thanks to the young gentleman, I was >>
>>> > >> > able
>>> to
>>> >> > >> > clear
>>> >> > >> > one sentence in a configuration question, and one requirement
>>> which
>>> >> > was
>>> >> > >> not
>>> >> > >> > said in the entire question set. Maybe it was mentioned in the
>>> >> > preface,
>>> >> > >> but
>>> >> > >> > I was too sick that day to search any statements outside the
>>> >> > questions.
>>> >> > >> > Howard could have answered, "this is basic knowledge (common
>>> >> sense)"
>>> >> > or
>>> >> > >> > "follow what the requirement says".
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > Some mentioned that some troubleshooting tickets are not >> >
>>> >> > specific
>>> >> and
>>> >> > >> need
>>> >> > >> > time and luck to pin down. Time and luck are the focus of V4,
>>> >> > >> > in
>>> my
>>> >> > >> humble
>>> >> > >> > opinion based on the feedbacks.
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > Jack
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > Terry Vinson wrote:
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> >> The old exam was centered around configuration, the new test
>>> >> > >> >> is
>>> >> > >> >> centered
>>> >> > >> >> more around consulting.
>>> >> > >> >>
>>> >> > >> >
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