RE: PhD vs CCIE

San Diego I am buying. This was an awesome thread but you as Paul said it
is off thread. Still a fun read.

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Ronnie Angello
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 5:43 PM
To: Scott Morris
Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: PhD vs CCIE

LMAO! Consider it done next time I see you... What was it??? Ketel One
Screwdriver?

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com> wrote:

> Neither Bill nor I would be wanting coffee... Something significantly
> stronger would be MUCH more appreciated! ;)
>
>
> On 3/6/12 3:23 PM, Ronnie Angello wrote:
> > As a matter of fact I have... I think we're connected on LinkedIn,
> > and I keep all of my info up to date there. It's basically a
> > living, breathing resume. I'm pretty open about everything...
> >
> > Ronald Angello - CCIE 17846
> >
> > Early in my career (starting at age 16), I worked at a national
> accelerator
> > facility where I was exposed to people of many different
> > nationalities
> and
> > cultures. I worked there for 12 years supporting the various
> > accelerator electronics systems, control system, and controls / data
> > acquisition / scientific computing / high performance computing
> > networks that make the electron beam reach its target for all of the
> > physicists from all over
> the
> > world to research the nucleus of the atom. I started there
> > terminating fiber and UTP, then configuring routers, switches, and
> > single-board I/O controllers. We looked like rock stars when we
> > replaced those damned
> Fore
> > PowerHubs that crashed daily! I worked as Network Administrator for
> > the entire site before I left there in 2006. I recall attending a
> > Joint
> Techs
> > conference where I met Dr. Scott Shenker... pretty cool to see what
> > he's
> up
> > to these days!
> >
> > More recently I worked as a Sr. Global Net Eng / Network Architect
> > for a Fortune 100 headquartered in the UK, consisting of 20+
> > operating
> companies
> > in 20+ countries. I designed and implemented a global network -
> > global
> WAN
> > and data centres. Yes - I had the pleasure of working with BT and
> > Orange /sigh (no offense to any of you that work for either telco).
> > I lead a "Global Network Services Council" that had the unfortunate
> > task of developing global standards for networking.
> >
> > The challenge for me wasn't sitting on conference calls all day with
> folks
> > across the pond in UK, FR, DK, etc., but there was a technical
> > barrier between myself and my counterparts. No one over there even
> > had as much
> as
> > a CCNA. I grew tired of all of the politics and micromanagement,
> > and
> quite
> > honestly, I became more interested in flipping my salary.
> >
> > The last straw for me was not all of the op co's undermining the
> standards
> > that we worked so hard to develop and get approved... not
> > management ruining my chance to go work for Cisco... not me paying
> > $2k a pop out of pocket twice to go to Chicago to take the CCDE
> > practical exam... but my manager making me take vacation each time
> > for those 3 days. Vacation is hard to come by over here! Leaving
> > was the best move I ever made, and I could NEVER go back to a typical
8-5.
> >
> > See, I still can't think of anything about sitting in a classroom or
> > virtual classroom that could replace any of that. BTW - if anyone
> > ever asked me to fetch them coffee or cake, they would have a
> > serious problem on their hands... unless it was Scott Morris or Dr.
> > Bill Parkhurst! :)
> >
> > Ronnie
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Bill6521 <bil6521_at_netscape.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Guys,
> >>
> >> Just had a thought and my apologies about this if am I wrong but
> >> have
> many
> >> of
> >> you guys really had international experience by that I mean not
> >> just the odd business trips to Rio, Paris, London or Rome to do a
> >> bit of install , configuration etc but a real international project
> >> - say of 18 months duration etc. I mean I was talking to my USA
> >> colleagues on a project here and the differences between how CCIEs
> >> operate and are regarded in the USA and in Europe for example are
> >> staggering. The differences are not just via language but also
> >> cultural - as I am sure we are seeing now. By the way true
> >> international experience is regarded as a big plus by most companies.
> >>
> >>
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