Re: PhD vs CCIE

 Damn straight! Though I've found that Russian Standard - Platinum is
actually even smoother than Kettle One! ;) make sure it's pale (e.g.
higher vodka ratio!)

On 3/6/12 5:42 PM, Ronnie Angello wrote:

  LMAO! Consider it done next time I see you... What was it??? Ketel
  One Screwdriver?

  On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com> wrote:

    Neither Bill nor I would be wanting coffee... Something
    significantly
    stronger would be MUCH more appreciated! ;)

    On 3/6/12 3:23 PM, Ronnie Angello wrote:
> As a matter of fact I have... I think we're connected on
    LinkedIn, and I
> keep all of my info up to date there. It's basically a living,
    breathing
> resume. I'm pretty open about everything...
>
> Ronald Angello - CCIE 17846
>
> Early in my career (starting at age 16), I worked at a national
    accelerator
> facility where I was exposed to people of many different
    nationalities and
> cultures. I worked there for 12 years supporting the various
    accelerator
> electronics systems, control system, and controls / data
    acquisition /
> scientific computing / high performance computing networks that
    make the
> electron beam reach its target for all of the physicists from
    all over the
> world to research the nucleus of the atom. I started there
    terminating
> fiber and UTP, then configuring routers, switches, and
    single-board I/O
> controllers. We looked like rock stars when we replaced those
    damned Fore
> PowerHubs that crashed daily! I worked as Network
    Administrator for the
> entire site before I left there in 2006. I recall attending a
    Joint Techs
> conference where I met Dr. Scott Shenker... pretty cool to see
    what he's up
> to these days!
>
> More recently I worked as a Sr. Global Net Eng / Network
    Architect for a
> Fortune 100 headquartered in the UK, consisting of 20+
    operating companies
> in 20+ countries. I designed and implemented a global network
    - global WAN
> and data centres. Yes - I had the pleasure of working with BT
    and Orange
> /sigh (no offense to any of you that work for either telco). I
    lead a
> "Global Network Services Council" that had the unfortunate task
    of
> developing global standards for networking.
>
> The challenge for me wasn't sitting on conference calls all day
    with folks
> across the pond in UK, FR, DK, etc., but there was a technical
    barrier
> between myself and my counterparts. No one over there even had
    as much as
> a CCNA. I grew tired of all of the politics and
    micromanagement, and quite
> honestly, I became more interested in flipping my salary.
>
> The last straw for me was not all of the op co's undermining
    the standards
> that we worked so hard to develop and get approved... not
    management
> ruining my chance to go work for Cisco... not me paying $2k a
    pop out of
> pocket twice to go to Chicago to take the CCDE practical
    exam... but my
> manager making me take vacation each time for those 3 days.
     Vacation is
> hard to come by over here! Leaving was the best move I ever
    made, and I
> could NEVER go back to a typical 8-5.
>
> See, I still can't think of anything about sitting in a
    classroom or
> virtual classroom that could replace any of that. BTW - if
    anyone ever
> asked me to fetch them coffee or cake, they would have a
    serious problem
> on their hands... unless it was Scott Morris or Dr. Bill
    Parkhurst! :)
>
> Ronnie
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Bill6521 <bil6521_at_netscape.net>
    wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> Just had a thought and my apologies about this if am I wrong
    but have many
>> of
>> you guys really had international experience by that I mean
    not just the
>> odd
>> business trips to Rio, Paris, London or Rome to do a bit of
    install ,
>> configuration etc but a real international project - say of 18
    months
>> duration
>> etc. I mean I was talking to my USA colleagues on a project
    here and the
>> differences between how CCIEs operate and are regarded in the
    USA and in
>> Europe for example are staggering. The differences are not
    just via
>> language
>> but also cultural - as I am sure we are seeing now. By the way
    true
>> international experience is regarded as a big plus by most
    companies.
>>
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